New cycle

**Haro3** · 11-16-2005, 08:56 PM

This is what im thinkin as of now....

weeks
1-15 Test E at 500mg
1-10 Tren E (cant get ace) at ?? I'm not sure on the dosage thinking 400mg?
13-18 Winni at ~ 50mg ed
proper pct
clomid/nolva
nolva all the way through at 10mg a day bump if necessary
clomid 300/100/50.......

open to all criticism i can not get Tren ace so i was thinkin shooting twice a week test e and tren e same shot...also im not 100% on tren dosages if taken this way..? lastely for pct i read 3 weeks after last test shot? but i did 2 weeks last time? i appreciate the help. Also im going for lean bulk and will use the winni to help drop a little fat at the end.

**Haro3** · 11-16-2005, 10:17 PM

any opinions?

**Haro3** · 11-17-2005, 09:36 AM

anyone..?

**KeyMastur** · 11-17-2005, 09:50 AM

you can make your own tren ace

1-12 Test E @ 500mg
9-14 Tren (fina) @ 75 mg / ed
9-14 Winni @ 50mg ed

or you could cut the test back to 10 weeks and then just move the tren / winny to 7-12

what cycle # is this for you ??

**Haro3** · 11-17-2005, 12:09 PM

tren longer than test???? Did not think that was a good idea

**Booz** · 11-17-2005, 12:49 PM

you can use tren a 14 days past test e mate coz the trens active life is only three days,the test is still in your system for 14 days after the last shot so you aint doin tren without the test are you!tren e dosages range from 3-500mg upwards weekly,its all about how you can handle the sides!

**Montgomery** · 11-17-2005, 01:28 PM

personally I'd run prop with the tren /winny in stead of enanthate . Everyone I know who ever did that stack won't do anything else again they loved it so much. With tren and a long ester, be ready for some major bloat mate. If you're sticking with your enanthate, though, get some letro and a progestin blocker or enzyme inhibitor. Remember with a test/tren you'll have to worry about both estrogen-induced and progestin-induced gyno.

Montgomery

**tryingtogetbig** · 11-17-2005, 01:32 PM

if test en, I'd go with tren en.

if tren ace, I'd go with prop. Be jabbing yourself ed anyhow.

First time with tren?

Stats?

peace,
ttgb

**Haro3** · 11-18-2005, 12:59 AM

yea it would be my first time with tren , second cycle in general

**KeyMastur** · 11-18-2005, 08:30 AM

from personal experience, my last cycle was a Prop / Tren combo and I loved it. kinda I shot EOD and saw great results.

**Dave321** · 11-18-2005, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by KeyMastur

from personal experience, my last cycle was a Prop / Tren combo and I loved it. kinda I shot EOD and saw great results.

ditto... I had winny at the end of mine, and it was the best cycle I have ever run.... even if it was cut a bit short...

**TheMudMan** · 11-18-2005, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

This is what im thinkin as of now....

weeks
1-15 Test E at 500mg
1-10 Tren E (cant get ace) at ?? I'm not sure on the dosage thinking 400mg?
13-18 Winni at ~ 50mg ed
proper pct
clomid/nolva
nolva all the way through at 10mg a day bump if necessary
clomid 300/100/50.......

open to all criticism i can not get Tren ace so i was thinkin shooting twice a week test e and tren e same shot...also im not 100% on tren dosages if taken this way..? lastely for pct i read 3 weeks after last test shot? but i did 2 weeks last time? i appreciate the help. Also im going for lean bulk and will use the winni to help drop a little fat at the end.

I like tren E over Ace.......... for dosages it depends on your tolerance to the sides of Tren. I ran 300mg/wk of Tren E and have seen very good results.

1 - 14 Enan 500mg/wk
1 - 10 Tren Enan 300mg /wk
11 - 16 Winny 50mg ED
1 - 16 Nolva 10mg ED
1 - 16 L-dex .25mg ED
1 - 16 200mg B6 ED

Start PCT 1 day after last Winny dose and run for no less then 30 days
Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

**Haro3** · 11-18-2005, 09:25 AM

Thx MudMan that looks solid to me...is the L-Dex for the progesterone?

**TheMudMan** · 11-18-2005, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

Thx MudMan that looks solid to me...is the L-Dex for the progesterone?

Yeah...... the L-dex will help with a lot of aromitization... so if there's less estrogen there will be less prolatin. Also the B6 is for prolatin a s well.

If prolatin becomes an issue then Letro would be the next step to help control the aromitization. But with the dosages you're running you should be fine.

**Haro3** · 11-18-2005, 09:38 AM

heres a question my tren e comes in 250mg/ml 10ml total that allows me to run 8 weeks at 300 otherwise i have to buy a second one. Inwhich i dont mind doing..just of course would rather not..would my gains suffer drastically by maybe running 250mg as opposed to 300 or maybe running 300 at 8 weeks? If so i'll jus buy a second..

**TheMudMan** · 11-18-2005, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

heres a question my tren e comes in 250mg/ml 10ml total that allows me to run 8 weeks at 300 otherwise i have to buy a second one. Inwhich i dont mind doing..just of course would rather not..would my gains suffer drastically by maybe running 250mg as opposed to 300 or maybe running 300 at 8 weeks? If so i'll jus buy a second..

I would at least run the tren 10 weeks........ I see better results this way.