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11-17-2005, 10:12 AM #1
BD underdosed or what?
I have experimented with many different brands of gear and recently tried out BD's products. I wasn't impressed at all with the outcome. Definitely got results but nothing close to what I anticipated.
Lately I have been hearing more and more about BD being underdosed. I thought it was hype b/c how can something human grade be underdosed? I'm sure at least a couple of people will bring up the debate of UGL or HG.
Anyone have any input to this subject? Wether someone who has tried their products or even had tests done on their gear?
I feel as if this is an important subject. BD seems to be spreading more and more across the BBing community so let's see what kind of feedback we can get.
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11-17-2005, 10:31 AM #2
I've been reading this alot lately myself.Mostly on this board though.And even moreso about thier orals,over injectables.
Last time I ran their products,they weren't nearly as popular as they are today.They were just a high quality,UG lab that was somewhat pricey,but the gear was great.
One thing you need to take into account Jay,and that is the more experienced you become,the lesser effect cycles become.You know what I mean by that.Experienced guys just don't blow up on cycles like those who are just starting out.Sure we get gains,but not like we did on our first few cycles we ran.So take that into account(as far as your results go).
I've also examined posts of those claiming BD is bunk,or whatever terms were used.In my observations,I noticed most were new users(1st cycle).Possibly those claims were made due to the fact they didn't gain 40 pounds like they thought they would on a cycle.Diet plays another role.So you really need to take with a grain of salt,who's posting what about what.I'll use LR3 IGf-1 as an example as well.Many claim their IGF was bunk,due to no results.Fact is,they were inexperienced an didn't know what to look for in IGF.They thought they'd run one cycle of IGF and turn into Ronnie Coleman.That's not the case as you know all too well.
~Pinnacle~
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11-17-2005, 10:36 AM #3Originally Posted by Pinnacle
I liked their orals. Never tried their injectables.
I keep reading more and more negative on BD. Not sure why.
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11-17-2005, 10:39 AM #4Originally Posted by Pinnacle
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh just the person I wanted to hear from. I totally agree 110% with EVERYTHING you stated. In fact I have never disagreed with any comment you have ever made.
It's just that my last bulking cycle wasn't as extreme as my present one. I gained more off that one then I did from this Cycle that consisted of BD products only. I liked the gear just thought I would get more out of it. You hit it right on the head when mentioning that you need higher doses as time goes on in order to gain more along with supporting more.
Finally you are totally correct on the LR3 statement. My experience was that when I was running 50mcg, nada!!! As soon as I bumped up to 80mcg the game began. I"m currently running 100mcg now and loving it. The pricetag is a bit steep but who ever said looking good was cheap.
Thanks for the input PInn
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11-17-2005, 11:04 AM #5
ive heard from people about bd gear beinn maybe underdosed also,but i agree with pinn on this,also i have used quite a few of their products inj and oral and have had no complaints,hopefully will be tryin out the test enanthate next summer,and thats one of the ones thats hotly debated at the moment!we shall see!!!!!
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11-17-2005, 11:15 AM #6Originally Posted by booz
Pinnacle bowing in his most humble,and respectful manner towards booz >>>>
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11-17-2005, 11:27 AM #7
expecting my results from some bd enanthate i sent out to get tested either today or tomorrow.....ill post them soon as they become availible
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11-17-2005, 11:30 AM #8Originally Posted by Pinnacle
must agree with you though on the amount of gear it takes to keep gainin,it aint the same for me anymore,the last three courses ive taken ive used 1g weekly of test and you dont blow up the same as the 1st,you know its still workin coz you know the feel of it,you may not put oodles of weight on but you harden up a little and watever else!next course startin in jan will be uppin the test to 1.5g to see wat occurs,with the other goodies obviously!!!
and again to reiterate wat i said in an earlier post
PINN YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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11-17-2005, 12:10 PM #9Anabolic Member
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I had BD gear for the second half of my cycle and pretty sure it was either bunk or severely underdosed.. The thing is Ive been reading sumin about quality fakes coming to the market to discredit BD... Dunno if these just rumors or not..
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11-17-2005, 01:14 PM #10Originally Posted by RoboCop5000
We will all be waiting for those. You'll save me some tiem by posting those. Thank You
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11-17-2005, 01:16 PM #11Originally Posted by booz
Well the BD enanthate was 1 of their many products I ran. I ran 750mgs and frontloaded the initial week.
Let's wait and see what the test results come back as from Robocop
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11-17-2005, 01:21 PM #12
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Last edited by O.M.E.G.A; 11-17-2005 at 01:25 PM.
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11-17-2005, 02:10 PM #13
I have had it before, TrenA + Eq. Good stuff. Too pricey though, but would take it over Mex anyday.
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11-17-2005, 02:17 PM #14Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
Yea thats what I ran, Tren A, EQ and Test E.
I'm just eagerly awaiting some test results.
Nice to see you back too
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11-17-2005, 02:19 PM #15Female Member
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I'm in the 10th week of cycle which started out as 500mg of BD Test E. About wk6 I bumped it up to 750mg. I have seen some OK results, but nothing like I've gotten from other Test E's. I jupstarted this cycle with 40mg of British Dragon Dbols. Really didn't see anything from them. Either they are really underdosed or my body didn't really like them. I had sides from them...Increased pump, hair falling out like crazy....but as far as gains nothing special...Over the whole cycle so far, I've gained about 5-7 lbs...But I've definately gotten much leaner. I'm wondering if this gear is coming from the same supplier. My supplier checks out on their website...but I know that just means they have sold them stuff before. Of all the hype I've heard about this gear...I definately am disappointed. I was expecting to blow up from this cycle. Since I've heard many times that their gear is overdosed or right on and very clean. My next cycle was going to be 40mg of Thai Dbol 750mg BD Test E and 600mg BD Decabol.....Now, I'll have to rethink that.
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11-17-2005, 02:31 PM #16Originally Posted by ynot_5_0
Rough when you're so hyped up about a product then let down in the end.
I'm like you, I had my next cycle all planned out now have to replan my strategies due current gains from their gear. I can say I did get gains, jsut not what I had planned.
Over 43,000 members so I'd love to hear what others have to say about personal experience. IMO that's a great way to judge a product. Especially if its' coming form a knowledgable person who has the rest of their regimen under control (training, diet, sleep etc...).
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11-17-2005, 07:06 PM #17
Bump for anymore input
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11-17-2005, 07:13 PM #18AR-Elite Hall of Famer
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Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
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11-17-2005, 07:45 PM #19Originally Posted by 956Vette
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11-18-2005, 08:41 AM #20
Bump for Robocops test E lab results
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11-18-2005, 08:43 AM #21Originally Posted by Schwarz
I second that
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11-18-2005, 09:07 AM #22
A thought - If any of the mods here know or can contact a representative of BD it would be good to hear his/her opinions on this subject!
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11-18-2005, 09:22 AM #23Female Member
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Originally Posted by Jayhova16
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11-18-2005, 10:31 AM #24AR-Elite Hall of Famer
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Originally Posted by Schwarz
BD products are fine....
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11-18-2005, 10:35 AM #25
still waiting on the results, i sent the sample out on tuesday priority mail so it would have arrived yesterday or today at there lab, once they receive it the testing shouldnt take anymore then a day....ill keep u guys updated
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11-18-2005, 10:45 AM #26
Scan the results and post if you could. Better to see it than hear it.
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11-18-2005, 11:34 AM #27Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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11-18-2005, 12:45 PM #28Originally Posted by RoboCop5000
Awesome brotha, thank you!!!!!!
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11-18-2005, 01:02 PM #29
some times is under dosed, but little, around 10 %, somes times more.
some times have more substance.
see body of science of William Llewellyn.
he pay and it does test of any brand.
at san rafael chemical services.
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11-18-2005, 01:03 PM #30Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
Yea I actually roamed around there for a bit
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11-18-2005, 04:48 PM #31Junior Member
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bd lab test
hi all
I like independent lab tests as much the next guy, anyway the courant newspaper in the usa did a article on buying roids on the net and then tested all the products they received, as it is a newspaper i doubt they are into promoting any sources/brands or making any money of steroids and totally unbiased
they tested lots of stuff and the BD Stuff (mastabol, oxy and test cyp) all were correctly/overdosed and totally clean of any contamination
other stuff they tested has heavy metals,underdosed,poisions and other shit thrown in plus deca tested to be propionate on another brand
here are the results
http://www.courant.com/media/acroba...11/20352626.pdfLast edited by arxg; 11-18-2005 at 05:11 PM. Reason: mispelling
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11-18-2005, 05:11 PM #32Originally Posted by arxg
The page wont come up, can you repaste the link??? I'm curious to see what was said.
I honestly couldnt see why the newspaper would comment on their test results, let alone positive ones.
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11-18-2005, 05:24 PM #33Junior Member
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http://www.courant.com/media/acrobat...1/20352626.pdf
the link again
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11-18-2005, 05:25 PM #34Junior Member
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here is the article itself
http://www.courant.com/hc-1northeast...0,788682.story
you can see the results on the links page next to it which says what you see is not what you get
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Originally Posted by arxg
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11-19-2005, 03:40 AM #36Anabolic Member
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No kidding.. after reading these my suspiciouns on having bunk gear for the second half of my last cycle only grows stronger..
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11-19-2005, 04:56 AM #37Junior Member
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I remember a while ago i saw some analasys on BD products and some of them were underdosed but i have also seen analasys results where the dosage was ok so..
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11-19-2005, 09:48 AM #38AR-Elite Hall of Famer
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Originally Posted by stupidhippo
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11-19-2005, 10:44 AM #39Anabolic Member
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in general I feel there is a big possibility (or bigger than I thoughT) that u r not getting what u think. If u r ordering or from the blackmarket from ppl u know..
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11-19-2005, 10:45 AM #40Anabolic Member
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Bd comes along fine in that article but in general the amount of possibly toxic compounds or completely wrong gear baffles me. - that was kinda hard to swallow..
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