Primo users.

**IBdmfkr** · 11-18-2005, 03:31 AM

Wanting opinions and feedback from people who have used primo. What did you stack it with, what dosages, etc...
Was thinking of TestE 750mg/wk, Primo 600mg/wk, and Deca 400mg/wk for 12weeks, any thoughts-opinions?

**vitor** · 11-18-2005, 03:52 AM

There is no point in stacking primo and deca because they hit the same recepters in the muscle. Ime using primo now, 1 gram a week, for 10 weeks. Love primo its my favorite drug. If you can offord it 1 gram a week will produce amazing quality gains. If it becomes to expensive, 600 mgs ew is good!

**IBdmfkr** · 11-18-2005, 03:55 AM

Why such a high dosage? What did you stack it with? Wonder what would be good to replace Deca with (T-bol?wk1-6, Eq600mg/wk, TrenA 100mg/day, etc)?

**vitor** · 11-18-2005, 04:03 AM

Eq hit the same recepter as deca and primo so there is no benefit there. Test/primo/t-bol would be very good. Ime stacking with parabolan , winny, igf and proviron . Ive used primo many times, ive foundt that I need a gram a week to grow now because ime far over my natrual limit.

**Josey Wales** · 11-18-2005, 05:14 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

There is no point in stacking primo and deca because they hit the same recepters in the muscle. Ime using primo now, 1 gram a week, for 10 weeks. Love primo its my favorite drug. If you can offord it 1 gram a week will produce amazing quality gains. If it becomes to expensive, 600 mgs ew is good!

Can you expand on that further? Deca is a nandralone and Primo is a DHT derivative, correct? If so, then why would they compete for the same receptor?

Also, I think I've read in several places that that whole concept of avoiding particular compound stacks because they "compete" for same receptors is questionable.

**vitor** · 11-18-2005, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by Josey Wales

Can you expand on that further? Deca is a nandralone and Primo is a DHT derivative, correct? If so, then why would they compete for the same receptor?

Also, I think I've read in several places that that whole concept of avoiding particular compound stacks because they "compete" for same receptors is questionable.

You can take deca/primo but its not a very effective combination.
Deca works well with the AR, but is not very effectivewith non-AR meditaded androgenic mechansms of muscle grow. Primo binds to the AR too. It would be more effective to stack deca or primo with a drug who binds to the non-AR, like for-example d-bol.

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 07:53 AM

I`m on Primo 1000mg/wk at the moment,I love this anabolic so much,one of the best. Primo makes my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primobolan does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness.The effects it has on me.......Effects... A drug that delivers everything it promises and more, Primo might be mild, but they pack a very specific punch. Remember, not every drug is supposed to be a "powerhouse" of mass and strength gains. Ever heard the expression, "It's the quiet ones that no one ever suspects"? That's the epitome of Primo ... no one ever suspects it will do quite the job it does. I give this drug a 10 out of 10.The cool thing about it, unlike most other steroids , is the fact that it is still very effective on a low calorie diet. And, in fact, it works best with the high protein, moderate fat, low starch diet that is so popular today. Eat steak and broccoli and you'll be hard as a rock on this drug, dare I say, even on its own! .I like your cycle,but I dont like Decca. Good luck bro!

goose4...........

**Swifto** · 11-18-2005, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

I`m on Primo 1000mg/wk at the moment,I love this anabolic so much,one of the best. Primo makes my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primobolan does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness.The effects it has on me.......Effects... A drug that delivers everything it promises and more, Primo might be mild, but they pack a very specific punch. Remember, not every drug is supposed to be a "powerhouse" of mass and strength gains. Ever heard the expression, "It's the quiet ones that no one ever suspects"? That's the epitome of Primo ... no one ever suspects it will do quite the job it does. I give this drug a 10 out of 10.The cool thing about it, unlike most other steroids , is the fact that it is still very effective on a low calorie diet. And, in fact, it works best with the high protein, moderate fat, low starch diet that is so popular today. Eat steak and broccoli and you'll be hard as a rock on this drug, dare I say, even on its own! .I like your cycle,but I dont like Decca. Good luck bro!

goose4...........

Will definitely use Primo in the future. Would you say its more of a cutter, or, more of a mass gaining AS. Or either with the correct diet?

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Will definitely use Primo in the future. Would you say its more of a cutter, or, more of a mass gaining AS. Or either with the correct diet?

The only problem with primo,it`s not cheap.It`s a shame not many brothers here use it.I mean Arnold loved primo!! I never get any sides!!! Thats why I run a high dose.To label this drug,it would be in the categorie of a cutter.But you can play around with this depending on diet and what you stack it with.Arnold loved the Dianabol /Primo stack.A mistake many people use is they run it to short because of the expence, 12 to 14 weeks is good.My current cycle.

Primo 1000mgs

Equipoise 600mgs

Andriol 600mgs per day

Var 100mgs/day

goose4.....

**vitor** · 11-18-2005, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

I`m on Primo 1000mg/wk at the moment,I love this anabolic so much,one of the best. Primo makes my physique crisp and carved in appearance in a way that no other drug can. It's the icing on the cake, so to speak. And while there are other drugs that can make you hard, Primobolan does it by drying the body out nicely without robbing the muscles of fullness.The effects it has on me.......Effects... A drug that delivers everything it promises and more, Primo might be mild, but they pack a very specific punch. Remember, not every drug is supposed to be a "powerhouse" of mass and strength gains. Ever heard the expression, "It's the quiet ones that no one ever suspects"? That's the epitome of Primo ... no one ever suspects it will do quite the job it does. I give this drug a 10 out of 10.The cool thing about it, unlike most other steroids , is the fact that it is still very effective on a low calorie diet. And, in fact, it works best with the high protein, moderate fat, low starch diet that is so popular today. Eat steak and broccoli and you'll be hard as a rock on this drug, dare I say, even on its own! .I like your cycle,but I dont like Decca. Good luck bro!

goose4...........

You were spot on, Primo is the best! An unlike test, d-bol and tren , with primo you keep everything you gain. Ive also noticed primo gives me alot of strenght gains, and no sides whatsover!

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

You were spot on, Primo is the best! An unlike test, d-bol and tren, with primo you keep everything you gain. Ive also noticed primo gives me alot of strenght gains, and no sides whatsover!

No dude,your spot on.It`s so great to hear someone that knows how great primo is.Everyone here is Test crazy,it`s not quite like this in England. Primo produces quality muscle that just sticks on your body.

goose4.........

**toolman** · 11-18-2005, 10:31 AM

I ran my first primo cytcle earlier this year, and I love it too. I stacked it with Var and got hard and cut. Did not gain as much on cycle as with the test cycles, but I kept every pound after it was all done. The only thing to watch out for, while mild, primo definately shuts the boys down. By around week 5, I lost all sex drive. No problem performing, but just didn't want to. My next primo cycle, I will add a low dose of test to keep me active.

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by toolman

I ran my first primo cytcle earlier this year, and I love it too. I stacked it with Var and got hard and cut. Did not gain as much on cycle as with the test cycles, but I kept every pound after it was all done. The only thing to watch out for, while mild, primo definately shuts the boys down. By around week 5, I lost all sex drive. No problem performing, but just didn't want to. My next primo cycle, I will add a low dose of test to keep me active.

Primo will shut you down around 60-70%,you will loose sex drive.A low dose of test is a great idea.You could also add Tbol it increases libido,mood and appetite.

goose4....

**IBdmfkr** · 11-18-2005, 10:58 AM

Great feedback guys. Collecting opinions to setup next run. This helps. So many things I want to do but unforetunently have to narrow it down.

Leaning towards this. (rough draft, opinions)
Dbol 1-4 50mg/day Tbol 11-15 50mg/day
TestE750mg/wk 1-15
Primo600mg/wk 1-15
TrenA100mg/day 1-15
Eq 600mg/wk 1-15 (debatable)

L-dex .25mg/day1-15
HCG 500iu E4D
Proper PCT.

**Pinnacle** · 11-18-2005, 11:17 AM

You won't even notice the EQ in that cycle,if you decide to use it.

~Pinnacle~

**IBdmfkr** · 11-18-2005, 11:51 AM

Replace it with something else or drop it?

**marcus300** · 11-18-2005, 12:03 PM

I LOVE PRIMO ASWELL, i stack it with prop and andriol , all the gains you keep and just puts quailty muscle on

**Pinnacle** · 11-18-2005, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Replace it with something else or drop it?

Drop it and cycle IGF in there as well.Slin also.......

~Pinnacle~

***SPIKE*** · 11-18-2005, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by toolman

My next primo cycle, I will add a low dose of test to keep me active.

I second that....

Great to see a thread on Primo. Primo is definitely my favorite anabolic out there. The reason some people dont see much from it is b/c of what Goose said. That they either dont run it long enough or take enough of it. He gave a great overall description!!

This past cutter I took 600mgs a week along with 100mgs ED of Prop and 50mgs Var a day for 6 weeks. Ran the total cycle for 12 weeks and got GREAT results and am eager to run it again.

The Shering amps get expensive especially when running doses as some are talking about (1g week). Next run may just have to be a homebrew

The comment on the T-bol has got me thinking though. So many options

**oswaldosalcedo** · 11-18-2005, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

Wanting opinions and feedback from people who have used primo. What did you stack it with, what dosages, etc...
Was thinking of TestE 750mg/wk, Primo 600mg/wk, and Deca 400mg/wk for 12weeks, any thoughts-opinions?

i have used 800 mg (weekly,8 weeks) of metenolone, is great.

**IBdmfkr** · 11-18-2005, 01:14 PM

Are all of you talking about the enanthate or acetate, what's the injection frequency of both. ED for Acetate, and 2/wk w/enanthate.?

**vitor** · 11-18-2005, 01:21 PM

In Norway where I live, I get meabolin primo. 200mgs per bottle. It testet 93.9% pure on lab-test. Supposed to be the best primo made so far. Better than shering primo!

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

In Norway where I live, I get meabolin primo. 200mgs per bottle. It testet 93.9% pure on lab-test. Supposed to be the best primo made so far. Better than shering primo!

Thats the only Primo I use!, BD is poor,hurts when you inject,That proves its not very pure.I love the girls from norway.

goose4.........

***SPIKE*** · 11-18-2005, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Thats the only Primo I use!, BD is poor,hurts when you inject,That proves its not very pure.
goose4.........

Hey Goose that statement would have went perfectly in the thread I started a week ago no BD Primo .vs. Shering.

Lets see if I can find it, that would interlink with this thread as well

**wolfyEVH** · 11-18-2005, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

Eq hit the same recepter as deca and primo so there is no benefit there. Test/primo/t-bol would be very good. Ime stacking with parabolan, winny, igf and proviron. Ive used primo many times, ive foundt that I need a gram a week to grow now because ime far over my natrual limit.

eq hits the same receptor as deca and eq so there is no benefit?? you mean the same receptor ALL steroids bind to..the ANDROGEN RECEPTOR......know your shit first before making a fool out of yourself.

**sandan** · 11-18-2005, 03:41 PM

So what about a straight Primo and T-bol stack??

12 wks Primo 600mgs per wk
6 wks T-bol mgs per day

Just a thought, am I way off base??

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by sandan

So what about a straight Primo and T-bol stack??

12 wks Primo 600mgs per wk
6 wks T-bol mgs per day

Just a thought, am I way off base??

Not bad,the problem with that cycle you will be low on strenth.Primo and T-bol are not great for this.This is what you should do.Run T-bol with Var.Tbol increases Libido and appetite,whereas Var and primo decreases both-but not that bad.The purpose of Var in the cycle is strictly for strengh,hardness and vascularity.Any contribution that Var makes to your LBM gains will be accepted,but not expected.Tbol with the Primo will be the base of the stack.It increases Libido,appetite,mood,and free test levels.Run Var at 30mgs,I chose 30 because it has minimal effect on libido compared to 40-which is bad.Run Tbol at 70 mgs.Run the orals first 6 weeks.The liver will function healthily,as the total 17aa intake doesnt ever exceed 100 mgs,use liver protectants like Liver52 and milk thristle.Run the Primo at 500mgs for 12 weeks.This is a bad ass cycle-with very mild sides,yet good results

goose4......

**sandan** · 11-18-2005, 04:27 PM

So the cycle would look like this,

wks 1-15 500mgs Primo shot once per wk (are Primo injects painful?)
wks 1-6 30mgs Anavar daily
wks 1-6 70mgs T-bol daily (seems kinda high, sure thats ok??)

This would be my first cycle by the way. 31yrs old 165 lbs 9%bf bout 5ft9in.
Really just lookin to get a good 10 or 15 lbs lean outta this. From what I've read this cycle looks like it would be fairly easy on the hairline, am I correct? Thanks for the reply Goose!!

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 04:47 PM

Ok-cause this is your first cycle I will let you off,with the injection pain,You can get Primo tabs,very expensive,you will need to take 3 tabs each day to equal 500mgs of inject per week.I really like your stats,sounds like you want to gain some mass,Tbol is the base of the stack.Tbol is a very safe drug,you could run it lower,but this is your first cycle-you get the best gains from your body.If you train right and diet is in check,you will gain 15 lbs on this,and keep it.I mean you could play around with this.Run the orals for 8 weeks and lower the Tbol to 50-60.Dude,this is a very safe cycle-have fun.

goose4....

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 04:58 PM

yes very easy on the hairline.Primo at 500mgs is mild.Run the primo for 12 weeks,will save you some cash,plus you wont need the extra 3 weeks.

goose4....

**wolfyEVH** · 11-18-2005, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

yes very easy on the hairline.Primo at 500mgs is mild.Run the primo for 12 weeks,will save you some cash,plus you wont need the extra 3 weeks.

goose4....

half a gram a week of primo for 12 weeks is going to get costly bro....especially for the minimal gains you'll see......low dose of test would be a lot better (better gains and cheaper)....why spend hundreds of dollars on minimal gains??? may as well just spend it all on food and stay natural.

***SPIKE*** · 11-18-2005, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by wolfyEVH

half a gram a week of primo for 12 weeks is going to get costly bro....especially for the minimal gains you'll see......low dose of test would be a lot better (better gains and cheaper)....why spend hundreds of dollars on minimal gains??? may as well just spend it all on food and stay natural.

Goose really knows his $hit but I have a tendency to agree with this. If you throw in a little Prop and run a small dose of 150mgs EOD along with the Primo I think the results would be phenominal. Well..............I cant say think b/c I"ve ran Primo with and without Test and prefer adding it.

I'm sure Goose will agree with this. Seems like he's just laying out the regimen of the suggested gear someone else asked about

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 05:33 PM

Yes I agree with your guys,this is not cost effective but will get the results he wants.The great thing about ASS,their are many ways to reach your goal.Depends which path you want to take.

goose4.....

**powerbodybuilder** · 11-18-2005, 06:20 PM

I love Primo. My last cycle was Masteron ,Primobolan and Test.
I will do it again soon.

***SPIKE*** · 11-18-2005, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

are many ways to reach your goal.Depends which path you want to take.

goose4.....

Very very very true Goose!!!!!! Some choose to stick to the basic inexpensive test and deca cycles. Others, like myself, spend thousands on GH, IGF and componds like Primo and other "not so cheap" items.

Once you reach a certain level it gets way more expensive. I"m sure pro BB'ers spend up to 50k a year if not more.

**305GUY** · 11-18-2005, 06:42 PM

Man a gram of primo EW for 12 weeks is some serious $$$$$$$ even 1/2gram EW would hurt my pocket.

**goose** · 11-18-2005, 06:50 PM

Jay-LOL. Thats`s my problem,the anabolics I really like are the most expensive gear.I wish I was a pure Test,deca and A bomb guy.That`s why I`m not good at giving cycle advise,lol.I really hate Primo now!!!!!!! I`m on 6iu HGH,now,split,wow the results are great-but you know the costs!!!!!!!!

goose4..........

***SPIKE*** · 11-18-2005, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Jay-LOL. Thats`s my problem,the anabolics I really like are the most expensive gear.I wish I was a pure Test,deca and A bomb guy.That`s why I`m not good at giving cycle advise,lol.I really hate Primo now!!!!!!! I`m on 6iu HGH,now,split,wow the results are great-but you know the costs!!!!!!!!

goose4..........

To each is their own Goose!!!! I spent 3K on this current cycle and dont regret it. I"m already planning my next GH run. 1000ius over the course of 8 months plus LR3. We're talking 3k there not even including AAS!!!!!!!

Too bad we couldnt get gains like we did off of our first cycles huh. I'll spend $500 on some Test/Deca/D-Bol. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh those were the days

**toolman** · 11-18-2005, 09:51 PM

What was the complaint with BD primo? I was planning on picking it up for my next primo cycle

**inspector_injector** · 11-18-2005, 10:00 PM

Wow man, you guys must be rich as all hell. A cycle of primo, var and so on is killer on your wallet. But I have to say that I'm on primo now and nothing makes you harder, even by itself. You start to notice weight gains after 4-5 weeks, but you slowly start with the definiton after you take it. It's not like test were you start bulking after 5 weeks, you can actually take weekly pictures and see different veins pop out and you look harder. It increases your vascularity a little bit in my opinoin, but I hear not as much as eq does. Anyways a gram a week of primo for 12 weeks would cost me $1,320. So where are you guys getting this sh*t for sooooo cheap??? LOL