Ok need some help with a friend who is juicing and just started goin back to the gym

**xplicit** · 05-12-2002, 06:53 PM

Ok my friend started his cycle sat and that also happens to be the first day back in the gym in at least a year for him. I tried to tell him to wait and work out natural first he didnt want to hear it. He jumped into it casue me and his bro are doing it, which i told him is a bad reason to even take AS but again he didnt want to hear it. He is taking
weeks 1-10 eq 500mgs
weeks 7-13 winni 50mgs ed
clomid post cycle

He is 5'7 148 and says he eats good and will go to the gym religionly with us. My question is:

what are some of hte harmful things about doing juice without workin out for a year (he wasnt big into it when he did go also)
and

what else can i do to help him be as safe as possible on this cycle since i failed at stopping him from doing it in the first place.

**Anabolik** · 05-12-2002, 07:22 PM

Well the only valid thing I can think about is that his tendons etc. may not be able to catch up with the increases in strength and hence lead to injuries (of course assumign strength and edurance are going to increase with the AAS use).
Otherwise I dont see any physical danger if he is serious about it now and treats the cycle with caution and, most importantly, doesn't decide to quit cold turkey, ie without going through a post-cycle recovery phase.

**xplicit** · 05-12-2002, 07:28 PM

Yea i told him about that he said hell be careful and try not to go crazy wit the weight. I also told him chances are hell keep doing cycles casue i cant picture him wantin to work out natural after this cycle. I mena he is just starting for real and is doing a cycle but hwne he gets off and sees how hard it is to get gains naturally im sure hell want to go back to roids

**escalade** · 05-12-2002, 07:35 PM

My friend went from working out occasionally and then went straight to fina. At first everything was doing well for him but he started to pull a lot of muscles and he messed up his shoulder for 2 weeks, and he stretched pretty well to, but after he finished taking it one night his balls swelled up and he could barely walk. He went to the doctor and he said they we inflammed because his body wasn't used to working out that extensively. It could also have been the fina

**Anabolik** · 05-12-2002, 07:53 PM

balls swell up cause someone's not used to physical strain?

Thats quite novel.

**Ryanhallmark** · 05-12-2002, 08:08 PM

His balls swelled up from training.. yeah I dont think so.. I think that is when the doctor does no what to tell you, and knows that it isnt serious..

**Diesel1** · 05-12-2002, 08:26 PM

I'm thinking about the same cycle. I'm 6'2.5"-225lbs., 13-15% Bf

Week 1-8 400mg EQ/week
Week 4-10 100mg Winny/EOD

**Diesel1** · 05-12-2002, 08:29 PM

Any advice out there? I just recently cut down from 240 lbs. and 18% Bf........will i get good gains in lean muscle that I' "ll keep

**escalade** · 05-12-2002, 10:19 PM

Well that just what the kid told me it was from to much stress and over exercise, but it prob was something abnormal and he just didn't want people to know even though the fact that he told me and my friends that is pretty embarrassing