This is it!

**jammergsxr** · 05-12-2002, 10:06 PM

weeks 1-10 400mgs. Eq
weeks 1-10 50mgs. Winnie E.D.
week 13 100mgs clomid E.D.
week 14 50 mgs. clomid E.D.
Hows it look?
should I or would I even need nolvedex?

**D3m3nt3d** · 05-12-2002, 10:11 PM

u dont need 10 straight weeks of winny..its 17aa bro..

**Ryanhallmark** · 05-12-2002, 10:13 PM

The liver wont like you after 10 weeks...

**broncojosh** · 05-12-2002, 10:14 PM

Yeah, 10 weeks of a 17aa will kill your liver. Why not run eq/test and throw winny in there for 4 weeks at the end? Even if this is a cutting cycle, I would personally still have test in there

**jammergsxr** · 05-12-2002, 10:19 PM

How about weeks 4-10 on the winny,that way its running with the EQ when it kicks in.

**jammergsxr** · 05-12-2002, 10:20 PM

My liver wont like me?Are those hard to replace? Lol

**arthurb999** · 05-12-2002, 10:32 PM

400 mg eq a week for 10 weeks
50 mg winnie ed weeks 6-12
Clomid starts week 13.

**jammergsxr** · 05-12-2002, 10:33 PM

You da man Arther....Thanks

**poppapump58** · 05-13-2002, 01:00 AM

As some of you guys know, I hate to see a cycle that doesnt include some test in it. Have you thought about including some test in the cycle. Eq by itself will not benifit you in any kind of way. Save the winny for the last four weeks of your cycle.

**Ajax** · 05-13-2002, 04:31 AM

10 weeks of winny is too hard on the liver, keep it to no more than six weeks and use it right up until you take the Clomid.

Add a little Test. to keep libido up and maximize gains.

Cut the EQ short one week; it takes three weeks to metabolize out of the system, while test. en/cyp metabolize out in two week.

weeks 1-10 Test. En/Cyp 200-400mg/week
weeks 1-9 400mgs. Eq
weeks 8-13 50mgs. Winnie E.D.

Clomid 300mg X 1 day, 100mg X 10 days 50mg X 10 days starting the day after yur last winny.

You mihgt not have a problem with gyno--but you never know. Keep some Nolvadex on hand (2 boxes of 30 tabs, 20mg each) to fix a worst-case scenario.

**jammergsxr** · 05-13-2002, 10:51 AM

O.k. guys I'm trying to put this all together so please bare with me.Now from what I've learned,the test is the best for mass,I,m not really looking for big mass I want the hard ripped muscle without the water bloating.EQ shouldn't have an effect on the labido should it?I figure with the winny and EQ I should get 10-15 pds of Quality muscle and be able to keep 90% of it post cycle.I've searched alot of threads on this and get alot of mixed post,really confusing but of course people are different.With this in mind I've never injected only used DMSO so here are my major fears.
1. Impotence
2. Hair loss
3. being soft and bloated
4. only want to inject 2wice a week(I'm a rookie)
I respect all of your opinions,Please dont think different!It's boards like this with Bro.s like you that keep alot of guys(and girls)from making life threatning mistakes!THANK YOU

**toddy** · 05-13-2002, 03:23 PM

with the exception of running the winny weeks 7-13 your cycle
is fine. You gotta remember most guys on this board are hardcore, so
they are gonna recommend more than you might want to take. For
keeping the sides low and seeing good gains eq and winny is excellent.