antiestrogen & cycle

**jaybird** · 05-13-2002, 12:44 PM

I hope everyone is doing O.K. out there!! I am about to do a cycle of "sust", I've got 15 amps and I'm gonning to cycle them for 10 weeks.
I have had problems in the past with what I think is some gyno. I'm not sure if it's gyno or fat, but I want to take some proviron with the cycle. I just don't know if I sould take "pro" during the cycle or after I'm done?

**beenie** · 05-13-2002, 01:38 PM

I tke armidex or nolva with sust from day 1. I know a lot of people wait for signs of gyno, but I say why take the chance. Since you have had signs of gyno in the past I would not take any chances. You already know you are predisposed to it, right?

**JRob** · 05-13-2002, 01:47 PM

Go with the arimides. The nolvadex will hinder gains. And I too take it from day one. I bloat really bad in my face and that does the trick. Also I would get another 5 amps if possible and keep your level constant at 500mgs a week for 10 weeks.

**jaybird** · 05-13-2002, 02:13 PM

thanks guys. How many mg. should I take per day, $ is limited can I get away with 25mg. per day???

**beenie** · 05-13-2002, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by jaybird
thanks guys. How many mg. should I take per day, $ is limited can I get away with 25mg. per day???

25mg/day works for me, but if you get siigns of gyno up the dosage quickly.

**iron4life79** · 05-13-2002, 05:48 PM

arimidex is cost prohibitive so if youre planning on using proviron , go ahead and use it. 50mg ed throughout your cycle. if you can afford the arimidex, then by all means go that route. theres a cheaper alternative to the ari, called liquidex. its just as effective and much less expensive.

peace bb79

***Sicilian30*** · 05-13-2002, 07:07 PM

Barbells and most guys are right. Liquidex is a great alternative and is cheaper, and tastes better.. LOL. I don't really know how well proviron works as far as an anti ester, however, I know Sustanon for me made my gyno worse until about the 7 week of my cycle.
Also trust me you will get better gains if you inject sus, every 3-5 days, not 7. 500mg a week is a good gainer 250 a week for me did nothing.
Also the question about how much Armidex/Liquidex do you take. Personally most guys take about .5 ml EOD. I personally have to take 1 ML a day, that is .5 in the morning and .5 at night. But again, I am very prone to gyno. sucks to be me..

**jaybird** · 05-13-2002, 09:56 PM

Sicilian30, I feel your pain!! I am almost scared to do another cycle because of gyno. I plan to go to my doc. to ask him to prescibe my some armidex. I plan to tell him that I'm half way through the cycle so he will have pitty and give me a scipt. I see that everyone says 250 of sust a week is not enough. I only want to gain about 10lbs. souldn't that do it?