In a word ..AWESOME

[Bigpup101]

Ok guys i am in day 11 of my cycle...i have put on 13 lbsso far and my max bench went from 405 for 6-8 to 455 for 5. i feel amazing, my arms have already come up from 17 1/2 to 18 1/4...i must have recieved 100 comments on how jacked i look in the last two days..Am i just having an exceptional response to AAS or have some of you seen similiar gains in such a short period of time..it seems the rule of thumb here is at least 4 weeks before seeing/ feeling results, not for me...sorry for keep going on like this but i just feel awesome right now..i'm on a high lol

[IBdmfkr]

First cycle?

[Booz]

Ok guys i am in day 11 of my cycle...i have put on 13 lbsso far and my max bench went from 405 for 6-8 to 455 for 5. i feel amazing, my arms have already come up from 17 1/2 to 18 1/4...i must have recieved 100 comments on how jacked i look in the last two days..Am i just having an exceptional response to AAS or have some of you seen similiar gains in such a short period of time..it seems the rule of thumb here is at least 4 weeks before seeing/ feeling results, not for me...sorry for keep going on like this but i just feel awesome right now..i'm on a high lol

great mate wat are you runnin????

[topvega]

Ok guys i am in day 11 of my cycle...i have put on 13 lbsso far and my max bench went from 405 for 6-8 to 455 for 5. i feel amazing, my arms have already come up from 17 1/2 to 18 1/4...i must have recieved 100 comments on how jacked i look in the last two days..Am i just having an exceptional response to AAS or have some of you seen similiar gains in such a short period of time..it seems the rule of thumb here is at least 4 weeks before seeing/ feeling results, not for me...sorry for keep going on like this but i just feel awesome right now..i'm on a high lol

What are u running? Not to burst your bubble, but the gains in the begining will be mostly water. And at least for me this equals an increase in strength, pump, muscle size....

[Tyrone_Biggums]

Ok guys i am in day 11 of my cycle...i have put on 13 lbsso far and my max bench went from 405 for 6-8 to 455 for 5. i feel amazing, my arms have already come up from 17 1/2 to 18 1/4...i must have recieved 100 comments on how jacked i look in the last two days..Am i just having an exceptional response to AAS or have some of you seen similiar gains in such a short period of time..it seems the rule of thumb here is at least 4 weeks before seeing/ feeling results, not for me...sorry for keep going on like this but i just feel awesome right now..i'm on a high lol

Sounds like Anadrol .......I used it once and in less than two weeks my bench went up 50Lbs...

What do you weigh right now???

[Machdiesel]

Hey BOOZ, where i work some guy always comes in and says hey mate, so now every time he comes in I greet him with a hey mate, hahaha its so funny i look foward to seing him everyday just so i can say mate, ne way carry on

[Booz]

Hey BOOZ, where i work some guy always comes in and says hey mate, so now every time he comes in I greet him with a hey mate, hahaha its so funny i look foward to seing him everyday just so i can say mate, ne way carry on

nice

[Bigpup101]

Yea this is my first cycle (below) went as far as i could natural..before cycle i was at 226-228 today i wat at 240, and my abs are still visible...


wks
1 Test Enanthate 500mgs/m1t 10 mgs / nolva 10mg
2 Test Enanthate 500mgs/m1t 10 mgs / nolva 10mg
3 Test Enanthate 500mgs/m1t 10 mgs / nolva 10mg
4 Test Enanthate 500mgs/m1t 10 mgs / nolva 10mg
5 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
6 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
7 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
8 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
9 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
10 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
11 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
12 test Enanthate 500 mgs/ anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
13 anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
14 anavar 50 mgs/ Nolva 10 mg
PCT
15 Clomid 300mg 1st day, 100mg 10 days / clenbuterol 80mcg
16 Clomid 100mg 10 days / clenbuterol 80mcg
17 Clomid 100mg 10 days
18off
19 clenbuterol 80mcg
20 clen 80mcg

[Tyrone_Biggums]

A 405 raw natural bench for 8 reps ( 500 max) at only 226 is world class..
I hope you did a natural powerlifting comp before you gassed up..


http://www.sonlightpower.com/USA_RAW...s_Records.html

Son Light Power

USA RAW Bench Press

Federation National Records

The 220 world record is only... 1998 Julian Wilkes - open men/220 - 475
you could have broke that easily.

1999 Greg Foster - submaster men/220 - 465

[Bigpup101]

A 405 raw natural bench for 8 reps ( 500 max) at only 228 is world class..
I hope you did a natural powerlifting comp before you gassed up..


http://www.sonlightpower.com/USA_RAW...s_Records.html

Son Light Power

USA RAW Bench Press

Federation National Records

The 220 world record is only... 1998 Julian Wilkes - open men/220 - 475
you could have broke that easily.

1999 Greg Foster - submaster men/220 - 465

he did 475..i have been 405 for a little while now, it's funny b/c sometimes i read threads on how much ppl lift and i know i could beat some of them, never entered a powerlifting comp before but i'm 23 all natutral up until two weeks ago and my max lifts look like this.

max bench-405 6-8

deadlift-495 6

squat (my weakest IMO) - 405 10

[Bigpup101]

On a side note i've never seen a powerlifting comp but i don't know if my bench would qualify i might now go down far enough...i don't drop it an inch or two but i had surgery on my shoulder 3 years ago and if i go down any lower then 2 or 3 inches from my chest, it really bothers my shoulder, so with that said i don't know if it would count as a full rep

[Tyrone_Biggums]

he did 475..i have been 405 for a little while now, it's funny b/c sometimes i read threads on how much ppl lift and i know i could beat some of them, never entered a powerlifting comp before but i'm 23 all natutral up until two weeks ago and my max lifts look like this.

max bench-405 6-8
deadlift-495 6

squat (my weakest IMO) - 405 10

I might be reading this wrong....what is your 1 rep max??? is it 405 x 1 rep or 405 x 8 reps??

[Bigpup101]

I might be reading this wrong....what is your 1 rep max??? is it 405 x 1 rep or 405 x 8 reps??

405 for 6-8 reps i have never been able to bring my bench at 405 for over 8 reps, i never really do a 1 rep max on bench because it hurts my shoulder, but if i was to guess i might be able to do 500 for 1 which actually saying it now sounds sick to me..i remeber a few years ago when i was praying at night to be able to put 2 plates on each side (225) i was like when i get there i wuill be sooo happy and i'll stop..wow little did i know then

[tranzit]

if you are over 5"11 that is impressive. If not i will assume you have short arms and its not very impressive. Not trying to bag on you. just wondering how tall you are?

[Bigpup101]

if you are over 5"11 that is impressive. If not i will assume you have short arms and its not very impressive. Not trying to bag on you. just wondering how tall you are?

i'm 6'1 and i do have very long arms

[IBdmfkr]

Do you:
1. Touch and go.
2. Bounce and Pray.
or 3. half way down.

Just curious, many people I see do heavy weight, don't know what proper form is. That goes for squats too.

[Bigpup101]

Do you:
1. Touch and go.
2. Bounce and Pray.
or 3. half way down.

Just curious, many people I see do heavy weight, don't know what proper form is. That goes for squats too.

well if you read above, i had surgery on my left shoulder and i don't go down all the way..i usually keep 3-4 inches from my chest, any lower and it puts alot of strain on my shoulder, so i guess it would be 3 but i think i go deeper then half way...as for squats i go as low as you can go...ass to the floor nice and slow..if i went down like some guys do in my gym i could probably squat 1,000 lol

[IBdmfkr]

Good for you, guess you got blessed with good genetics. Happy for you.

[tranzit]

i'm 6'1 and i do have very long arms

405 is a good bench for 6"1 at your weight. Nice job.

[pitbull27]

Damn bro.... I am the same height, same weight, and (assuming thats your pic in the avatar) just about the same build, (i must admit I have a few extra percent of body fat on my gut....Too much love for beer!).... but my bench is nowhere near that! I'm still fighting with that 225 thing you mentioned a few posts back(225 for 6-8 reps). I must be going about the benchpress WAY wrong because I have been stuck there for a while now. Squat happens to be my strength and when your squat is doubling up your benchpress something is amiss. Hopefully this upcoming cycle plan will take care of that!
Anyway, keep up the good work bro.... I can only imagine where you'll be after a couple of well planned cycles! CHEERS!

[pitbull27]

Do give an example of your chest workout routine, if you would be so kind, bigpup. I gotta see how you broke thru your plateu of a few years back, or at least find out what I'm doing wrong. Thanks.

[Got Insulin?]

so if i did 335 x 6-8 reps. that leaves my max bench at?

[MuckDog]

good for u bigpup- keep up the good work

[pitbull27]

so if i did 335 x 6-8 reps. that leaves my max bench at?

... ALOT higher than mine!!!

[Tyrone_Biggums]

so if i did 335 x 6-8 reps. that leaves my max bench at?

http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html
335x6=390
335x8=416

[chest6]

405 for 8 and u were natural..i think im going to retire from weightlifting

[chest6]

he did 475..i have been 405 for a little while now, it's funny b/c sometimes i read threads on how much ppl lift and i know i could beat some of them, never entered a powerlifting comp before but i'm 23 all natutral up until two weeks ago and my max lifts look like this.

max bench-405 6-8

deadlift-495 6

squat (my weakest IMO) - 405 10

23 or 26? ur profile says 26 im confused

[heavyrotation92]

[Bigpup101]

Thanks guys, i was stuck at a low i knew my bench press was good but now my head is the size of a watermelon lol ...My chest routine hardly ever changes..it's the only thing i haven't really messed with b/c i have always made gains with it (the don't fix it if it aint broke mentallity)..it's pretty basic..flat bench, incle dumbbell press, incline flyes and cable cross overs..see nothing special lol...and chest6 yea i'm 23 i just turned 23 acrtually nov. 21st 1982...i made my profile in a hurry, didnt think i would stay on a.r that long haha...and last but not least heavyrotation92, jelous buddy? why lie, i dont need any extra attentio0n...but thanks to everyone else on the props..i just started this thread to see if my gains on AAS were normal

[Bigpup101]

oh p.s pitbull that pic of me was taken a loong time ago, i'm actually gonna put a new one up now, it's me before i started my cycle it was taken in july

[Jray1der]

so what type of shoulder injury did you have?

oh p.s pitbull that pic of me was taken a loong time ago, i'm actually gonna put a new one up now, it's me before i started my cycle it was taken in july

[niXon)(]

bullshit "bigpup"


that is all

[Bigpup101]

so what type of shoulder injury did you have?

orthoscopic surgery for a labrem tear, and i had some ligaments torn as well

nixon..thanks bro for you're insight, why the animosity? b/c you couldnt do it..and on a side note my brother is still in high school he's 18 and he's maxing out at 315 and thats wayy beyond what i could do in high school...but you're entitled to believe what you want, i didnt start this thread to wow tyou guys, i just started it to say i'm extremely happy with my cycle, if it makes you feel better personally i really only bench 225 lol

[wascaptain5214]

no shirt too i bet.........j/k good lift

[timtim]

405 for 6 to 8 would mean a one rep max of @ 520 if you could only do 405 for 6. if 405 is for 8 then your closer to 560. i'd have to see it to believe it considering your saying you have world class strength without ever cycling till now. pretty hard to believe.

if your only going to 1/2 way down that's not a real bench. i'm 180 and can do 435 on a 1/2 rep lockout. doesn't mean i come anywhere near 435 on a real bench. nowhere near it as a matter of fact.

[Bigpup101]

405 for 6 to 8 would mean a one rep max of @ 520 if you could only do 405 for 6. if 405 is for 8 then your closer to 560. i'd have to see it to believe it considering your saying you have world class strength without ever cycling till now. pretty hard to believe.

if your only going to 1/2 way down that's not a real bench. i'm 180 and can do 435 on a 1/2 rep lockout. doesn't mean i come anywhere near 435 on a real bench. nowhere near it as a matter of fact.

well there ya go, i don't do a full bench i can't but i go more then half way, i don't really need or feel the need to defend myself on what i bench press it's locker room talk, i was just saying my gains...and by the way there are two kids at my gym who i work out with and one is right there with me, we gradutated together and he benches 405 for 4..and he damn near touches his chest with it..so there ARE people out there that do this..probably more then you think..just don't realize how good it is..it doesnt seem that hard for me to believe i guess b/c i'm used to it whatever

[Tyrone_Biggums]

405 for 6 to 8 would mean a one rep max of @ 520 if you could only do 405 for 6. if 405 is for 8 then your closer to 560. i'd have to see it to believe it considering your saying you have world class strength without ever cycling till now. pretty hard to believe.

if your only going to 1/2 way down that's not a real bench. i'm 180 and can do 435 on a 1/2 rep lockout. doesn't mean i come anywhere near 435 on a real bench. nowhere near it as a matter of fact.

405x6= 470
405x8= 503 not 560
http://www.exrx.net/Calculators/OneRepMax.html

I have benched 435 for 8 reps at 257 ( and Yes I was on all kinds of steroids )
So trust me 405x8 is miles away from 560........when I did 435x8 I could hit 545 for a clean single, touch and go not a compatition lift

But yes I really doubt he did a natural 405x6-8 at 226, but who gives a f-ck ( just by saying 6-8 and not the exact rep count tells you something) But why argue with the guy....maybe he did do it...who really cares

[tough old man]

Thanks guys, i was stuck at a low i knew my bench press was good but now my head is the size of a watermelon lol ...My chest routine hardly ever changes..it's the only thing i haven't really messed with b/c i have always made gains with it (the don't fix it if it aint broke mentallity)..it's pretty basic..flat bench, incle dumbbell press, incline flyes and cable cross overs..see nothing special lol...and chest6 yea i'm 23 i just turned 23 acrtually nov. 21st 1982...i made my profile in a hurry, didnt think i would stay on a.r that long haha...and last but not least heavyrotation92, jelous buddy? why lie, i dont need any extra attentio0n...but thanks to everyone else on the props..i just started this thread to see if my gains on AAS were normal

LETS SEE IF I HAVE THIS CORRECT

1) 17.5" arms
2) 6'1" tall
3) long arms
4) 226 lbs
5) all natural
6) 405 for 6-8 reps

Sorry I don't believe any of this crap.

Just hope that you don't decide to touch your chest without one of your friends around. Should this happen, I'm sure we won't be seeing anymore crazy post from you.

I had to edit this as I forgot something

[MarkinHouston]

Bottom line is: No, those gains are not the norm....13lbs in 11 days from 500mg test only? Highly irregular, but then again so are your pre-cycle numbers.

[suav]

damn thats crazy 405.. i max 235 3-4 x's. im 5'11'' 170lbs