some help on var and tbol..

[flabbywussy]

i just picked up some var enough to run it at 60mg/day for 6 weeks and tbol 200 caps @20mg each (enough for 7 weeks @80mg/day) got clomid and nolva for pct.

my question is ...is there any point in pyramiding, or no? how would u guys run it?

[IBdmfkr]

I'd run both of those with Test. Gonna be a lot of stress on your liver though.
1-7 Tbol
1-12 TestE 500mg/wk
8-13 Var

[marcus300]

i just picked up some var enough to run it at 60mg/day for 6 weeks and tbol 200 caps @20mg each (enough for 7 weeks @80mg/day) got clomid and nolva for pct.

my question is ...is there any point in pyramiding, or no? how would u guys run it?

no there is no point in pyramiding, ive found it better if i dont and stick some test in defo

[flabbywussy]

i've heard u don't need test when running tbol and var. i love test don't get me wrong, but it's just that i've run it so many times i'd like to try something a little different now.

[IBdmfkr]

I think you'll be disappointed with your proposed all oral cycle. Give it a try and let us know how it goes.

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

I might be wrong but shouldn't you be running VAR at higher dosages than t-bol? Maybe you could use them both at the same time at lower dosages? I think that you should add something else in there as well but give it a shot the very worst that can happen is you won't get what you wanted...

[flabbywussy]

var messes with labido from what i've heard tbol saves it if run higher.

only lookin to gain around 10 lbs tops

[the good guy]

There is a really good diary in the member cycle results section.On the same cycle very detailed with pics sides and gains

[100%NATURAL-theGH]

so you ARE running both orals together... nice.. good idea.... and good luck.

[flabbywussy]

hey good guy u got a link ?

[the good guy]

Dont know if this will show up as link if not it will be under this name on first page of members cycle results. Tbol/Var Cycle Diary - First Cycle

[flabbywussy]

bump for other suggestions

[flabbywussy]

i know someone knows something....

[Hellmaskbanned]

i just picked up some var enough to run it at 60mg/day for 6 weeks and tbol 200 caps @20mg each (enough for 7 weeks @80mg/day) got clomid and nolva for pct.

my question is ...is there any point in pyramiding, or no? how would u guys run it?

80mgs with tbol sounds high. The great genious ROSS lol said he had side effects when he used it that high. Under the member cycle progress section theres a great journal about some guy named cmore? Check it out. Increased libido with tbol , decreased libido with anavar . <-- well thats what i've heard.

[james21]

80mg/tbol on its own is NICE huge pumps 24/7..... also i think you will live if you run them together but I don't think you need it for 10lbs .... tbol will do that no problem. Plus tbol at that high of a dose lowered my libido a little bit after about 2 weeks and anavar completely kills it... just letting you know my experiences

[Hellmaskbanned]

80mg/tbol on its own is NICE huge pumps 24/7..... also i think you will live if you run them together but I don't think you need it for 10lbs .... tbol will do that no problem. Plus tbol at that high of a dose lowered my libido a little bit after about 2 weeks and anavar completely kills it... just letting you know my experiences

what dose did you run it at?

[james21]

60 then upped to 80

[Hellmaskbanned]

60 then upped to 80

any sides?

take anything for liver?

what were your weight gains and strength gains?

thanks for replys.

[james21]

I drink lots of water, but i still got muscle spasm/cramp, like a charlie hore you have to force out ... hurts like hell. I would wake up with one of those in my calf/foot every morning alsmot, i didnt use liv52/milk thistle or anything but just the usual vitamins/lots of water/palmagranit juice. Besides the cramps every once in a while, there wern't any other sides.... ohh maybe a little shortness of breath.. nothing major didnt effect workout's

[Hellmaskbanned]

I drink lots of water, but i still got muscle spasm/cramp, like a charlie hore you have to force out ... hurts like hell. I would wake up with one of those in my calf/foot every morning alsmot, i didnt use liv52/milk thistle or anything but just the usual vitamins/lots of water/palmagranit juice. Besides the cramps every once in a while, there wern't any other sides.... ohh maybe a little shortness of breath.. nothing major didnt effect workout's

thats good nothing serious. I wonder what your liver values are like....
and..... how much weight/strength did you gain

[james21]

16lbs lifts went up 35lbs, ran it for 6 weeks

[james21]

i just picked up some var enough to run it at 60mg/day for 6 weeks and tbol 200 caps @20mg each (enough for 7 weeks @80mg/day) got clomid and nolva for pct.

my question is ...is there any point in pyramiding, or no? how would u guys run it?

Ohh sorry for jacking the thread, but NO there is no reason to pyramid

[Milky87]

what is the chemical nae for Tbol? Id love ot research it a bit

[IBdmfkr]

Chlorodehydromethyltestosterone

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=199812

[TADOLFI]

Here is the beginning of a cycle that a member did on T-bol

Here is probably the best documented cycle with pics.

And here's a little something on Anavar

Good luck Bro!

[Milky87]

ah4-chlorondianabol. What an interesting chemical