***Who has done numerous cycles but still has normal/high natty test production?***

**testosterona** · 12-09-2005, 11:49 PM

i'm just looking for feedback from some of the more experienced useres on board.how many cycles have you done and where are your natural test levels at. i'm trying too figure out how numerous cycles effect natural test productiion after PCT. please list how many cycles youv ran, compounds used, and bloodwork results. hopefully this thread will educate us younger users, and everyone else, about the effect of steroid use on natuaral testosterone production. thanks

test

**testosterona** · 12-10-2005, 12:00 AM

babump

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-10-2005, 12:10 AM

In 23 years of usage I've averaged 3 cycles a year. I don't think there is a compound I haven't used. I've been using an Endo since the last 17 years. All is good. Don't underestimate the value of bloodwork. I know several that I've worked out with over the years that didnt use an endo, and I'm still standing strong and they didn't think it was necessary to do bloodwork, just assumed everything was ok cuz they felt ok. Guess what? They were wrong.

**testosterona** · 12-10-2005, 12:16 AM

so where are you at now NYC? test is in normall range?

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-10-2005, 12:21 AM

Dont have a sheet in front of me, but yes, test is very much normal after all of my PCT's. If you play the game, play it right.

**testosterona** · 12-10-2005, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

Dont have a sheet in front of me, but yes, test is very much normal after all of my PCT's. If you play the game, play it right.

that's very good too hear. what have your cycle durations been, longest one? also, you have used tren before i assume?

**testosterona** · 12-10-2005, 12:22 AM

oh yeah, what age did you first cycle at?

thanks again.

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-10-2005, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by testosterona

that's very good too hear. what have your cycle durations been, longest one? also, you have used tren before i assume?

Longest one was 2 years straight. I used to piss tren and recap it and sell it to the kids at the gym and they'd grow like weeds.

**NYC BIG MIKE** · 12-10-2005, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by testosterona

oh yeah, what age did you first cycle at?

thanks again.

I'm 43. First cycle at 20. Am I gonna get a lecture from tough old man now?

**Pinnacle** · 12-10-2005, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

I used to piss tren and recap it and sell it to the kids at the gym and they'd grow like weeds.

bwhahhahhahahahahaahahahhahahhaha

**testosterona** · 12-10-2005, 01:30 AM

i love the way you make that body go bumpbumpbump

**marcus300** · 12-10-2005, 11:55 AM

used gear for the last 14yrs, ive done more or less every stack going my normal range was about 3 a year, ive even done the Paul Boreson way of recepter blowing for 3 weeks, which include taking up to 5-10grams a week, strange things really happen at that level, at 38 i would say i am ready for HRT so my test levels now are low, i have found it hard to recover from cycles in the last 12 months, i have kept a diary over the years and know how my body responds to different chemicals, i am very intune with building muscle for my body, personaly as you get older i think the people who have been juicing for years will need HRT, alot of my friends which include a few pros do need added test to keep going and maintaining gains when off a cycle, i know there is the exception but overall i think thats the norm

**tcw** · 12-10-2005, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

In 23 years of usage I've averaged 3 cycles a year. I don't think there is a compound I haven't used. I've been using an Endo since the last 17 years. All is good. Don't underestimate the value of bloodwork. I know several that I've worked out with over the years that didnt use an endo, and I'm still standing strong and they didn't think it was necessary to do bloodwork, just assumed everything was ok cuz they felt ok. Guess what? They were wrong.

QUESTION: What is "Endo?"

thks

**JiGGaMaN** · 12-10-2005, 12:41 PM

endocrinologist: a doctor that specializes in the bodies internal working i.e glands, hormone production, etc.

**Red Monster** · 12-10-2005, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

In 23 years of usage I've averaged 3 cycles a year. I don't think there is a compound I haven't used. I've been using an Endo since the last 17 years. All is good. Don't underestimate the value of bloodwork. I know several that I've worked out with over the years that didnt use an endo, and I'm still standing strong and they didn't think it was necessary to do bloodwork, just assumed everything was ok cuz they felt ok. Guess what? They were wrong.

oh my god.. did u just say you've done 75 cycles?

holy ****!

BG · 12-10-2005, 01:16 PM

Im 31, and Ive only done a few cycles, each one recovery was harder, this last one, 15 weeks, took me almost 3 weeks to have a little sex drive again, I wont do another cycle over 10 weeks again.imo

**JiGGaMaN** · 12-10-2005, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Red Monster

oh my god.. did u just say you've done 75 cycles?

holy ****!

i second that, holy ****

**Red Monster** · 12-10-2005, 02:52 PM

btw, I'm not judging you if you've done 75 cycles.

I'd much rather learn from your experience...

Its just mind boggling.. totally changes the boundaries of what I had been aware of