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    Question Junping starting your cycle with test prop

    Would jump starting your cycle with test prop be a good idea for a first time cycle? I don't want to use d-bol, so I was thing of maybe using 75-100 every 2-3 days of prop for 2 or 3 weeks to get the cycle going. It depends on if I go with the every 5 day cycle or the every 6 day cycle.

    Planned cycle 200mg EQ and 250mg test enan every 5-6 days for 10 weeks. Haven't decided if I will add winny in at weeks 7-13. Then start colmid therapy after winny.

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    Jump styarting with prop is fine....using that you wont get the water weight like the dbol will give you... Id recomend upping the dosages of all your gear....and using the prop at like 100 mg EOD(everyotherday)

    For my next cycle, im running prop throughout the whole cycle, 100 mg ED for 13 weeks! :O)

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    johnnyb,
    you can do this if you wish bro, however im of the opinion thats its better to taper off with prop instead. dont get me wrong here, jumping it is probably just as effective, but when i taper off with prop, the gains(almost ALL of them) seem to hang around a lot longer than if i was to just let the longer acting ester just kind of fade out of my system, and then start my clomid. plus, if you taper off with the prop, you can start your clomid closer to your last injection of prop, and thus keep more gains this way as well.

    peace bb79
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    Thanks cnyce89 and BB79,

    so what do you think of a jump and a taper with prop? and/or the taper with some winny and prop?

    JohnnyB

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    hey bro.....don't go 3 days without shooting prop. Your levels
    won't stay elevated. If not everyday, eod (everyotherday)

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    all the replys you got were solid bro.
    and a big thumbs up to the winny/prop at the end of your cycle

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    Prop. is a good jump start and anti-taper (I know what you mean BB79, but for the new guys out there, Test. Prop. can be used during the period the Test. En./Cyp. is tapering out your system to prevent the taper of Test. in your system.

    I am doing just taht this cycle (and Winny at the end 4Plates!).

    Like Josh91 said--don't go 3 days between Test. Prop. Shots--you will have one day of rising Test. Levels, one dsay of dropping Test. levels and one day of no Test. level!

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    Thanks josh91, 4plates and Ajax

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    ajax,
    i guess i didnt clarify that very well did i? the subject line and post police arent coming for me are they?...........hehe.
    anyways, youre correct, it is an anti-taper. and its much more effective than just letting the longer acting ester fade out. i missed the 3 day span of the prop altogether johnnyb. this is not a good idea, just wasting the gear imho. i'm glad to see youre bouncing some ideas around bro, and you seem to be getting a feel for what you want to do. keep up the good work.

    peace bb79

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    Thanks BB79,


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    How long would I run the prop on the front end with enanthate ?

    JohnnyB

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    no prob. bro.....I would run the prop for the first 2 to 3 weeks
    until the enanthate kicks in.....no more than 3 but no less than
    2. So take it like that and you will do good.

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    What prop would be best, QV prop, T-100, T-50, Testopro L/A or Testolent ?

    Least pain, best results if there is a difference and some dose ideas.

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