People keep saying Test is Test so would running 500mg of Test E for 10 weeks or 500mg for Prop for 10 weeks result in bascially the same gains when the bloat has gone from test e ?
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People keep saying Test is Test so would running 500mg of Test E for 10 weeks or 500mg for Prop for 10 weeks result in bascially the same gains when the bloat has gone from test e ?
yes test is test but i belive longer esters tend 2 some water rentation more than shorter esters
Yes and No
Why not?
Because they have an ester attatched to them
The ester takes up room in your gear
So, the bigger the ester is the smaller the space for the Test
Enanthate is a longer ester than Prop meaning it also weighs more
So a 500mg shot of Enanthate will actually be nearer to 350mg (approx)
where as a 500mg shot of Prop will be closer to 450mg (approx)
Therefore Prop would give better results as there is more Test in it
Hope that makes sense
Prop should give better results because it kicks in more quickly as well!
The longer the ester, the less test you have per mL of oil. It all comes down to preferance bro. Do you like shooting yourself ED or EOD as opposed to e3d? I don't hold water on prop so all I would use is a SERM, but if I was using enth or cyp, I would go with an AI instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by ant_8u
It all depends on your diet and the goals you had setfor the cycle. mg to mg prop has more then Enan, cyp but it's all in the diet.
True is a wayQuote:
Originally Posted by Hammerman
A 12 week cycle of Prop would be just that - 12 weeks
A 12 week cycle of Enanthate would be 12 weeks minus the time it takes to kick in
Prop would be active straight away for 12 weeks
Enanthate would be active after 4 weeks - meaning it's only active for 8 weeks
So the Prop will be active for longer
But Prop will leave the body quickly (3 days) where as Enanthate will leave slower (14 days)
So there will still be low levels of Enanthate in your system for a week or two after your cycle, where as the Prop will leave in 3 days
Even though the prop leaves quicker it would be active for longer meaning you're able to make more gains
(sorry - that's about as simple as i can word it)
Test is Test but…..
There are two factors to consider (1) the actual weight of the test. you are taking (excluding the weight of the ester). The bigger the ester the more it weights and the less test per gram you are actually taking….(2) the second factor is the half life of the estered test. Each test ester has a different half life – suspension is straight test – no ester at all, its testosterone is used up within one day….test prop has a prop. Ester attached and has a half life of about two days (look it up I might be wrong)., some test esters have a half life of three weeks…. A short half life has certain advantages though, mainly you can get off of it quickly in case you get gyro, or start getting facial hair if you are a woman or have a blood test thrown at you unexpectedly….
Suspension is straight testosterone with no ester….so that 100mg of test suspension = 100 mg of testosterone...the problem with suspension is that its testosterone hits your system all at once… Test with a prop. ester has a half life of around 2 days….that means if you inject 100mg test. prop. today….50 mg of test prop. will still be in your system 2 days from now….and the other 50mg of prop. will have been converted to straight test by the end of the second day…..but the 50mg of prop used up would translate to (look this up too) around 45mg of straight test….
What we want then using Test is a nice smooth even release of testosterone into our bodies….test. suspension clearly does not do that unless u like injecting your self a few times each day….and guys that have success with suspension do just that…..
A smooth release of test can be achieved by correctly timing your injections so that a constant amount of test is in your system, this can be made easier injecting a combination of test esters with different half lives…The point of mixing different esters of test together is to get a smooth release of Test into our blood stream….Sust. is a blend of 4 test esters originally designed so that a once a week injection would provide a smooth release of test within that week equal to the amount of a normal male would make on his own…..Sust. is regarded by many as the best test because of this smooth even release of test…and other benefits include fewer side effects because of the absence of hills and valleys in the testosterone levels…..
Very Nice Post Bro
prop = greater mast only kuz its in faster :D other htan that i dont even think u can say which is betta
A smooth release of test can be achieved by correctly timing your injections so that a constant amount of test is in your system, this can be made easier injecting a combination of test esters with different half lives…The point of mixing different esters of test together is to get a smooth release of Test into our blood stream….Sust. is a blend of 4 test esters originally designed so that a once a week injection would provide a smooth release of test within that week equal to the amount of a normal male would make on his own…..Sust. is regarded by many as the best test because of this smooth even release of test…and other benefits include fewer side effects because of the absence of hills and valleys in the testosterone levels…..[/QUOTE]
Got to disagree Bro, your theory is sound but sus does not provide steady blood levels.
First sus was designed for HRT purposes for once a month use not once a week, that creates many hills and valleys in test levels infact no american HRT docs will use SUS.