Juice & high body fat

Is it pointless to start a cycle of juice if your body fat is already high. I mean if you have muscle underneath, but you have a stomach. I have a 37" gut, but I really only get fat in my stomach. Would prop, tren, winny be good and help me lose fat and build strength/muscle as long as my diet is good? Should I lose the weight first then start?

Tren is supposed to be the most powerful fat burner out there so it wouldn't hurt, what's your BF%?

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Originally Posted by madflabby

Tren is supposed to be the most powerful fat burner out there so it wouldn't hurt, what's your BF%?

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dont tell him "it wouldnt hurt" hit teh treadmill and get down to 12-15% fairly lean and have a very good natural base to work from then consider doing a first cycle of test e or c @ 500mg/wk for 12 weeks then do a pct and see where you are there in terms of sides/gains and everything
thats if this is your first cycle

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Originally Posted by seriouslifter

Is it pointless to start a cycle of juice if your body fat is already high. I mean if you have muscle underneath, but you have a stomach. I have a 37" gut, but I really only get fat in my stomach. Would prop, tren, winny be good and help me lose fat and build strength/muscle as long as my diet is good? Should I lose the weight first then start?

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Don't turn to AAS to burn fat. Diet, cardio and training will help with that.

What exactly are your stats. That's first.........

Lower bodyfat % will make it worth so much more.

i was the same way b4 i started .... overweight with fat over the muscles .... started running and eating right .... dropped 11%bf naturally .... then i finally hit the sauce ..... till this day im glad i did it that way

diet and cardio brotha .... those are the keys

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Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

i was the same way b4 i started .... overweight with fat over the muscles .... started running and eating right .... dropped 11%bf naturally .... then i finally hit the sauce ..... till this day im glad i did it that way

diet and cardio brotha .... those are the keys

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Awesome to see people succeeding using the correct route. Great accomplishment with the drop in BF%!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jayhova16

Awesome to see people succeeding using the correct route. Great accomplishment with the drop in BF%!!!!

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thanx hovie ... feels good man

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Originally Posted by QuieTSToRM33

thanx hovie ... feels good man

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You deserve it, I wont even ask how long it took b/c either way you did it. I have clients that I've worked with for years and have a hard time dropping a couple percent without getting discouraged. 11% is awesome!!!!!!! Whatever you're doing keep it up...............

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Originally Posted by Jayhova16

You deserve it, I wont even ask how long it took b/c either way you did it. I have clients that I've worked with for years and have a hard time dropping a couple percent without getting discouraged. 11% is awesome!!!!!!! Whatever you're doing keep it up...............

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all i needed was the right motivation .... if u got the right motivation, anything is possible

I personally found out that dropping BF is a lot easier than I thought. The only minus is when u hit the gym and get weaker at the same time.. I almost wish that I would have done a cutting cycle instead so I would have been able to keep my muscles. I started at 280 lbs 10 weeks ago and now down to 245... Well the bulker Im gonna start in 3 weeks hopefullt will correct that.. Cant wait..