ok thanks guys I will check out the search option i did not even see it and I have 10 cc not not ml the pharmecy I bought it at told me that it was enough for a cycle so are cc more then ml I am not too smart when it comes to that stuff anyway the other info pete i am 30 years old I was a pro boxer i just quit and now I am getting into acting and I dont want to get a whole lot bigger a few pounds are ok but nothing dramatic I am 6'1 230 I just want to get a little leaner and HARDER I work out 5 days a week thanks again guys.