new cycle plz advise

hey guys hows it going, I am planning my 4th cycle I have had good gains in size and strength and am very pleased with the results, with my previous cycles. I am now planning on going on my next cycle I have been training natty for 3 months since I was last on, here are my previous cycles:

cycle 1
sust 500mg per week - wk 1-8
pct
(excellent gains in size and strength)

cycle 2
test enth 500mg per week - wk 1-10
deca 400mg per week - wk 1-9
pct
(very good results in size and strength)

cycle 3
dbol 40mg pd 1-4
test enth 750mgs pw 1-10
deca 500mgs pw 1-9
pct
(excellent cycle)

oh yeh my stats are:
23 yrs old,
5ft 7" 182 pounds (was 195 but slimmed down a lil)
I do carry a bit of fat but not alot,

my 4th cycle is a bulk/cutter and I was hoping for your advice:

Week 0 Test Prop 100mg ED 10 days (frontload)

Week 1-5 Dbol 30mg ED

Week 1-17 nolva 10mg ED

Week 1-17 HCG 500IU E4D

Week 1-17 liquidex .50mg EOD

Week 1-17 Proviron 50mg EOD

Week 1-13 Equipoise(or deca) 600mg EW

Week 1-13 Test Cypionate(or test enth) 750mg EW

Week 14-17 Test Prop 100mg ED

Week 14-17 Winny 50mg ED

Week 18-21 Clen 20-100mcg ED for 14 Days

Week 18-21 Clomid Therapy 300-100-50

supplements I will be taking are:
Milk thistle
multi Vit
protein shakes
cod liver oil
Vit B6
any more suggestions would be excellent many thanks and hope 2 hear from u bros soon.

The layout looks good, but i would definitly consider the EQ over deca if your looking to have more lean mass.

Bump!

do you want to cut or bulk? cant' really have both bro

i wanna bulk at the start of tha cycle n then cut up wht i have gained from bulkin

ok, well if you are running 17wks......
1-4 dbol 40-50mgs ed
1-10deca 600mgs ed
1-10 test cyp 750mgs ed
11-17 tren ace 50mgs ed
11-17 test prop 100mgs ed

that's what id do. the tren shsould lean you out a bit and make you strong as ever, or you could replace that w/ 80mgs var ed.

thanx bro....n e other ppl wanna help me out

The pct looks good. Why dont you bump the Nolva up to 20mg ed weeks 18-21?

Just a question here..............not to flame but you say this is your 4th cycle? You say you have done 3 cycles in the past that gave you all good gains in strength and size and yet your 182lbs.............so what size were you before you juiced. 130?

when i started training i was 168 pounds after hardcore training eating and also sleeping ;) i then got my weight up 2 210 pounds pretty lean, after tht i was involved in a car accident which totally ****ed up my wrist and i was unable to train for along time, i lost a hell of a lot of my gains in strength and size after sum time i then got back in 2 training and got up 2 203 pounds lean and stayed like that for a good while then after an incident which i care not 2 mention i ****ed up tha same wrist and my left shoulder, and i was out for sum time again, my weight dropped back down to 180pounds and i have maintained this weight lean for a while now, now that my shoulder and wrist are pretty much ok (thanks 2 GOD) i wanna start bulking again, so to answer your question i was like 170 before i juiced, if i hadnt had tha string of bad luck i have had i would be about 220-30pounds lean, hope i have answerd your question brother...

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Originally Posted by wannabmassive

when i started training i was 168 pounds after hardcore training eating and also sleeping ;) i then got my weight up 2 210 pounds pretty lean, after tht i was involved in a car accident which totally ****ed up my wrist and i was unable to train for along time, i lost a hell of a lot of my gains in strength and size after sum time i then got back in 2 training and got up 2 203 pounds lean and stayed like that for a good while then after an incident which i care not 2 mention i ****ed up tha same wrist and my left shoulder, and i was out for sum time again, my weight dropped back down to 180pounds and i have maintained this weight lean for a while now, now that my shoulder and wrist are pretty much ok (thanks 2 GOD) i wanna start bulking again, so to answer your question i was like 170 before i juiced, if i hadnt had tha string of bad luck i have had i would be about 220-30pounds lean, hope i have answerd your question brother...

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Sorry to hear about all your troubles............good luck with things.

thanx for support, brothers