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    Exclamation Sust. Question: EOD or E3rdD or EW????

    Always use Test E, but got a deal on Sust. So do I use ED, EOD, every 3rd day or every week??? Stacking with Deca ... I have D-Bol for the front end -do I need it with Sust.? Also have some EQ I can run with the Deca @ 200ml/per week, is this enough to do anything or should I save it?
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    stats? history?

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    EQ + Deca sounds like a bad idea from what I learned bro...

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    sust has always been real good at twice a week shots....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIANABOLIO
    Always use Test E, but got a deal on Sust. So do I use ED, EOD, every 3rd day or every week??? Stacking with Deca ... I have D-Bol for the front end -do I need it with Sust.? Also have some EQ I can run with the Deca @ 200ml/per week, is this enough to do anything or should I save it?
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    I would shot the sus EOD and use it with eq and front load with dbol , sounds good, what dosages are you going to use?

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    i'm doin the same cycle - starting monday

    1'm injecting sust 250mg 3x a week

    its prob best ED or EOD though (due to the short acting ethers present)
    i beleive blood levels are pretty up and down with sust - and more frequent injections is the best way to combat this
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    EQ is a derrivitive of Deca isnt it?

    so both are not needed IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    EQ is a derrivitive of Deca isnt it?

    so both are not needed IMO
    It isn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by musselman
    EQ + Deca sounds like a bad idea from what I learned bro...
    possibly... could cause a very high RBC count.. which could cause 'complications'

    The two can be used together tho imo.

    Sides need to be carefully monitored.

    In addition, the choice to use the two together would ultimately depend on the user's perceived goals.. from said cycle.

    I'm working with a client currently on a contest prep cycle:

    Test-E+Nandrolone phenylpropionate+EQ... among other compounds... so i definately believe the three can be used together.

    What's your cycle history?

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    By the way Dianabolio.. your avator wasn't acceptable.. so removed i it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narkissos
    By the way Dianabolio.. your avator wasn't acceptable.. so removed i it.

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    i liked his avator

    hey Nark - in what way is EQ similar to Deca then, if its not a derivitive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    i liked his avator

    hey Nark - in what way is EQ similar to Deca then, if its not a derivitive?
    Two different compounds all together... in fact, Deca is a nortestosterone... totally different...

    You wouldn't do both in one cycle unless you wanted to raise the weekly steroid burden really high... as both are reasonably safe androgens... but both are too many drugs for the average cycler - when you factor in that test must also be in there some where... use one or the other at a nce effective dose... for example, I would sooner use 400mg of either one (goal-specific) than 200mg of both...

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    i wander why i had it in my head that they were similar

    i swear i have heard this from a couple of different sauces - maybe they were bullsh!tting me

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    Im doing some Deca and Sust right now shootin 500mg Sust weekly. 250mg on Monday or 250mg on Thursday. Work perfect for me.

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    here's what my cycle looks like (it's my 4th cycle)... Running Deca solo and not working out for the first 2 weeks to get rid of some tendinitis.
    (Nolva on hand just in case)
    Week 1 Deca 200mg
    Week 2 Deca 300mg
    Week 3 Deca 400mg/Sust. 500 (Sust. 250mg EOD)/D-bol 20mg ED
    Week 4 Deca 600mg/Sust. 500mg/D-bol 40mg ED
    Week 5 Deca 600mg/Sust. 500mg
    Week 6 Deca 600mg/Sust. 500mg
    Week 7 Deca 600mg/Sust. 500mg
    Week 8 Deca 600mg/Sust. 500mg
    Week 9 Deca 600mg/Sust. 500mg
    Week 10 Deca 600mg/Sust. 500mg
    Week 11 Sust. 500mg
    Week 12 Prop 100mg ED
    Week 14-17 Nolva/Clomid

    Any improvements you can suggest???

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    well IMO

    dont Taper doses
    and run the sust higher than the deca
    and run the prop right up to PCT - theres no point running it for a week

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    Thanks for the advice!
    I don't want to run over 500mg test, should I drop the deca down to 400mg/week?? I don't want to get too bloated, and can't afford arimidex for this cycle.... Have nolva, should I use it at 10mg ed, or save it for pct -I've never had a prob. with gyno, just water...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIANABOLIO
    Thanks for the advice!
    I don't want to run over 500mg test, should I drop the deca down to 400mg/week?? I don't want to get too bloated, and can't afford arimidex for this cycle.... Have nolva, should I use it at 10mg ed, or save it for pct -I've never had a prob. with gyno, just water...
    yeah 400mg Deca will be ok
    as long as its lower than the test

    10mg Nolva ED will be beneficial
    or 20mg if u can afford it

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    Tapering doses is old school, and there isn't really any point in doing it imo. Sust should be run ed or eod to experience its full potential.

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    Great advice from all -THANKS! I'm going into week 2 with a gain of 6 lb.s, and feeling f*ing strong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior
    Two different compounds all together... in fact, Deca is a nortestosterone... totally different...

    You wouldn't do both in one cycle unless you wanted to raise the weekly steroid burden really high... as both are reasonably safe androgens... but both are too many drugs for the average cycler - when you factor in that test must also be in there some where... use one or the other at a nce effective dose... for example, I would sooner use 400mg of either one (goal-specific) than 200mg of both...
    ditto.. i should've added the disclaimer, that the guy i'm working with is a competitive bodybuilder.. not an average user.

    Spot on as usual Warrior

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