Fist cyle help

**BigArms** · 05-24-2002, 10:55 AM

I'm 27/5/7/165lbs/12% bf. Been lifting for 3-4yrs. Looking to get to 170-175 but really lean. What would you guys recommend? BTW my diet is very good! I take in about 200 grams of protein a day, about 3000-3200 calories a day and going heavy at the gym. I was thinking about doing WINSTROL /50MG/EOD EQUIPOISE /300MG for 8weeks. What do you think? Any help is greatly appreciated!

**Pete235** · 05-24-2002, 10:58 AM

Run winstrol for 6 weeks only, make sure to take milk thistle and bump the EQ to 400-600mg/week. Pretty good beginners cycle. Oh yeah...make sure you have clomid for post cycle.

**BigArms** · 05-24-2002, 11:10 AM

Thanks Pete! But how much and often of the milk thistle should I take?

**Pete235** · 05-24-2002, 11:12 AM

Start the week before your winny and take 1000mg/day. Continue until one week after winny. It's very cheap and you can buy it at any health food or suppliment store.

**JRob** · 05-24-2002, 11:13 AM

People usually say 800-1000 mgs a day. But I usually take only about 400. There has also been some debate over whether or not the thistle can hinder gains. A lot of people for that reason are taking ALA. There is also another product that some like even better which is called Tyler liver detox factors. Just something to think about.

**BigArms** · 05-24-2002, 11:22 AM

Thanx Pete! Hey JRob! Where can I find Tyler liver detox and how much do i use?

**bigwillster** · 05-24-2002, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by BigArms
Thanx Pete! Hey JRob! Where can I find Tyler liver detox and how much do i use?

You can get it at anabolicfitness.net . It will cost you $35 and $7.63 for shipping and handling. It has 120 caps and you need to take 4 a day. Hope this helps.

**BigArms** · 05-24-2002, 11:38 AM

Thanks BigWill! I will check it out!

**bigwillster** · 05-24-2002, 11:40 AM

Anytime bro

**BigArms** · 05-24-2002, 11:44 AM

Damn Pete! You are DIESEL bro! Very nice!

**PURE ADRENALINE** · 05-24-2002, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by Pete235
Run winstrol for 6 weeks only, make sure to take milk thistle and bump the EQ to 400-600mg/week. Pretty good beginners cycle. Oh yeah...make sure you have clomid for post cycle.

Damn Pete i do believe you have put some solid size on bro ??

have you put on some weight bro ??

Anyway i would agree with Pete but would like to know your cycle experience first ???

Milk thistle...shit I eat it like candy !!!!!

Anyway if this is your first cycle i think you can run the EQ at 400mg per week..winny well i tend to think it needs to be ran ed so 50mg is the lowest I would go but that is JMO ???

**Pete235** · 05-24-2002, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by PURE ADRENALINE
Damn Pete i do believe you have put some solid size on bro ??

Nope

That's me swollen on dbol about 4 months ago. I'm about 9lbs lighter now with no bloat.

**BigArms** · 05-24-2002, 12:23 PM

Thanks PA! Yes it's going to be my first cycle. So I should run 50mg winny ed instead of eod? Okay! Any body else with any suggestions would glad to hear it.