Which is worst?

[orosco]

WHich is worse in terms of sides like acne, hairloss and liver toxicity? I know they are both pretty bad...

[orosco]

Oops...Winstrol or Halo...4 got to include the 2 i was referring too

[FranKieC]

What up kiddd!

I have never ran Halo but Winnie did a number on my Cholesterol but my liver Values stayed the same. The only reason I would run winnie again would be in a bulker to lower SHBG.

I'm sure Pinnacle could chime in on this one.

[orosco]

bump

[SVTMuscle*]

Halo i think, winny is pretty safe

[magic32]

WHich is worse in terms of sides like acne, hairloss and liver toxicity? I know they are both pretty bad...

Based on the letter of your question, I'd have to say Liver toxicity is worse, with hair loss second then acne.

Based on the spirit of your question, I'd say all 17aa's are hepatotoxic, with Var being the exception as it is significantly milder.

As for hair loss, it depends a lot on genetics. In some people Winnie and Primo can destroy their hair. Others can control this with counteracting agents. Still others have no problems at all.

Acne and bacne often are easily controlled with Nizoral.

M.

[Swifto]

What up kiddd!

I have never ran Halo but Winnie did a number on my Cholesterol but my liver Values stayed the same. The only reason I would run winnie again would be in a bulker to lower SHBG.

I'm sure Pinnacle could chime in on this one.

Something less toxic than Winny will also lower SHBG levels. Proviron will also do this. Var has also been known to reduce levels of SHBG slightly.

[Swifto]

Based on the letter of your question, I'd have to say Liver toxicity is worse, with hair loss second then acne.

Based on the spirit of your question, I'd say all 17aa's are hepatotoxic, with Var being the exception as it is significantly milder.

As for hair loss, it depends a lot on genetics. In some people Winnie and Primo can destroy their hair. Others can control this with counteracting agents. Still others have no problems at all.

Acne and bacne often are easily controlled with Nizoral.

M.

Its very hard to put them in any kind of order.

Some could argue that your liver will regenerate, whilst acne may leave long term scarring and hair may never re-grow.