2nd cycle..help

**JUICED** · 05-24-2002, 10:40 PM

i was planning on getting some sust dbol and winny tabs.
running sust at 1cc every 5 days with 10cc's, dbol at like 35 mg ed..my main question is with the winny though. what time of the day and how much should i take the winny? i want to get stronger and faster with it.

**JUICED** · 05-24-2002, 11:02 PM

do you guys think this is an ok cycle? andwhen should i take the winny..after my cycle by itself or what?

**escalade** · 05-25-2002, 01:23 AM

i'd get winny shots instead, with the tabs a lot of it gets eaten by the liver and results won't be as good

**Iwan2bsolid2** · 05-25-2002, 10:57 AM

First off you don't want to run D-bol and Winny at the same time being that 17-AA AS are harsh on the liver. Add more Sus in there 500mg/wk will be good.

wk1-10 >Sus500mg/wk
wk1-4 >D-bol 35mg/ED
wk5-10 >Winny50mg/ED
also don't forget to budget $$ for your anti E's/ clomid
start clomid therapy 2.5-3 wks after last Sus shot.

**tanguy** · 05-25-2002, 11:15 AM

do at least 500mgs of sus. 250 wont be worth it. people claim they have had results with 250mgs but i wouldnt waste my time.

**Havesome77** · 05-25-2002, 03:03 PM

Take 250mg sustanon every 3 days for 8 weeks
D-Bol 35mg first 4 weeks
Take 50mg winny tabs everday, last 4 weeks of cycle (100mg can be used but i would ease into it just in case u get bad joint pains)
Look at member pics (marx), he is jacked and the above cycle is similiar to his second cycle

**Steak Helmet** · 05-25-2002, 03:38 PM

You do not want to run the WINNY and the D-bol at teh same timeor back-to-back. THe 17-AA in both the D's and the WINNY are very liver toxic. You need a break of 4 weeks or more to give your liver a chance to clean itself out. The less stress on your liver, the better you will be in the long run. Your liver cna repair itslef unless there is scar tissue. Running both at the same time or back-to-back, will cause scaring.

Be easy on your liver, it is not like your kidneys...you only have one liver.