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    Arrow my next cycle all planned out. i think?

    im gonna start this in about 3 week. got my clen but struggling to get hold of letro.

    start letro 1mg ed right though my cycle

    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / twice a week at 150mg with the test

    for pct
    clen :
    day 1: 25 mgs
    day 2: 50 mgs
    day 3: 80 mgs
    day 4: 100 mg
    day 5: 125 mgs, then stay at 125 mgs ed for the duration.

    what do you think?

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    you need more pct.

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    dont forget the clomid for pct bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    dont forget the clomid for pct bro.
    where will that go in my plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    im gonna start this in about 3 week. got my clen but struggling to get hold of letro.

    start letro 1mg ed right though my cycle

    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / twice a week at 150mg with the test

    for pct
    clen :
    day 1: 25 mgs
    day 2: 50 mgs
    day 3: 80 mgs
    day 4: 100 mg
    day 5: 125 mgs, then stay at 125 mgs ed for the duration.

    what do you think?
    what can i add?

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    I wld bump the deca to 400mg a week, and run the test for at least 13 weeks and the deca for 12... jmo

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    the cycle is fine for me. its just the pct im not 100% on

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    I always run clomid and nolva during pct... Igf-lr3 also if u have the cash to spare........

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    with clen and letro aswel? how would u edit my pct planning

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    how do you expect to recover from clen only? Clen will do nothing to recover natural testosterone levels ??

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    with deca in the mix i would do this
    1-4 nolva 20mg
    1-4 clomid 100mg

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    1-4 of my cycle? this is what im sayin mate, im abit confused on my pct as i wanna do my secound course perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    1-4 of my cycle? this is what im sayin mate, im abit confused on my pct as i wanna do my secound course perfectly.

    No 1-4 post cycle.... and those wld be ed doses

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    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / twice a week at 150mg with the test

    for pct

    1-4 nolva 20mg
    1-4 clomid 100mg
    .......................................... will that do do u think or will i still have to do clen

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    looks good... That's the way i did pct and I avoided any vision problems... got very emotional though...

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    starting week 15 (running test THROUGH week 12 obviously)..counting 14 days and then beginning 100mg everyday and 20mg everyday of clomid/nolva respectively for 4 weeks.

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    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / twice a week at 150mg with the test

    for pct

    1-4 nolva 20mg
    1-4 clomid 100mg
    clen :
    day 1: 25 mgs
    day 2: 50 mgs
    day 3: 80 mgs
    day 4: 100 mg
    day 5: 125 mgs, then stay at 125

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / twice a week at 150mg with the test

    for pct

    1-4 nolva 20mg
    1-4 clomid 100mg
    clen :
    day 1: 25 mgs
    day 2: 50 mgs
    day 3: 80 mgs
    day 4: 100 mg
    day 5: 125 mgs, then stay at 125
    or fvck the clen off sorry

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    that sounds good bro. imo clen is very important cause it will make you keep pretty much all of your gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    im gonna start this in about 3 week. got my clen but struggling to get hold of letro.

    start letro 1mg ed right though my cycle

    Wk 1-12 500mg Test E / two shots on Mon and Thurs at 250mg
    wk 1-11 300mg Deca / twice a week at 150mg with the test

    for pct
    clen :
    day 1: 25 mgs
    day 2: 50 mgs
    day 3: 80 mgs
    day 4: 100 mg
    day 5: 125 mgs, then stay at 125 mgs ed for the duration.

    what do you think?

    OK I may be echoing what everyone else would say like that one post some dude said but my advice will be good.

    Up yourdeca to 400-500mg /week (you shoudln't notice any sexual disfunction) unless of course you don't hav eenough deca but 400-500 will be better suited to maximize gains.

    as for letro as your ON CYCLE anti-E/progesterone (deca is a big progesterone/=prolactin in the nips) is a good choice but at 1mg ED you
    'll be hurting your gains but ERRADICATING your estrogen .. MEN Need estrogen to make gains and keep cholesterol and mental attitude in check..

    try 1 squirt of ARR letro (.25mg ED) or maybe .50mg ED instead of 1 mg!

    Goodluck

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    wat does letro do then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unoid
    OK I may be echoing what everyone else would say like that one post some dude said but my advice will be good.

    Up yourdeca to 400-500mg /week (you shoudln't notice any sexual disfunction) unless of course you don't hav eenough deca but 400-500 will be better suited to maximize gains.

    as for letro as your ON CYCLE anti-E/progesterone (deca is a big progesterone/=prolactin in the nips) is a good choice but at 1mg ED you
    'll be hurting your gains but ERRADICATING your estrogen .. MEN Need estrogen to make gains and keep cholesterol and mental attitude in check..

    try 1 squirt of ARR letro (.25mg ED) or maybe .50mg ED instead of 1 mg!

    Goodluck
    ccheers mate. can i order it all off arr with me livin in england

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    Letro is an Aromatise Inhibitor...it eliminates estrogen in your body. It prohibits the conversion into estrogen...and does a damn good job at it too..limiting estrogenic sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    Letro is an Aromatise Inhibitor...it eliminates estrogen in your body. It prohibits the conversion into estrogen...and does a damn good job at it too..limiting estrogenic sides.
    like bitch tittys

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    oh yea, letro is ideal for preventing gyno

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    could i buy any off all this shit from shops

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    or do i have to order it

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    I don't run any anti e's during cycle... I have it on hand in case it is needed, but i only run 300-500mg of b6 during cycle... i am not gyno prone though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    I don't run any anti e's during cycle... I have it on hand in case it is needed, but i only run 300-500mg of b6 during cycle... i am not gyno prone though...
    thanks for your views and coments mate+ tren , unoid, + chest

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    for sure bro, im here to help

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    nice one mate. gonna try go back to bed now. lol

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    thats probably a good idea. its like 2 in the morning for you right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    could i buy any off all this shit from shops
    all these pct and anti es are prescription drugs, but you can buy it from the board sponsor for research

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
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    jesus, and you're still awake? you're a straight insomniac bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    all these pct and anti es are prescription drugs, but you can buy it from the board sponsor for research
    its only dollars tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tren Bull
    jesus, and you're still awake? you're a straight insomniac bro
    been talkin to u all nite las nite and tonite so u no im not lyin wen i say i cnt sleep. lol haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    been talkin to u all nite las nite and tonite so u no im not lyin wen i say i cnt sleep. lol haha
    thats for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by spencer
    been talkin to u all nite las nite and tonite so u no im not lyin wen i say i cnt sleep. lol haha
    hahaha.. sounds like me..I always say, ok, just one more post.. then another interesting one pops up..lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    hahaha.. sounds like me..I always say, ok, just one more post.. then another interesting one pops up..lol

    That's funny... I have been off here for awhile and I got alot more sleep... Now it's back to the just 1 more post routine....

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