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    Longest on AVAR..

    WHats the longest anyone has been on Anavar for..I plan on running 100mg ed for 10 weeks..Was wondering if anyone ran 12 weeks..

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    8 weeks, but if you run it to 12 stay off the alchohol

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    I did it for 10 weeks along with Test E and Deca

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    ive only run it 7 weeks myself
    but would run it longer if i could afford the damn things

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    Are you talking about a Var only cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32
    Are you talking about a Var only cycle?

    M.

    Actually he has a few posts up on his cycle. The var is just one of the compounds used.

    BUMP for entire cycle lay out.............

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    I've talked to guys who've ran it at 16wks, with pre and post-blood workups. They're levels we're well within bounds. However, they were experienced, observed the 100mgs oral rule, used Milk Thistle throughout and ran it within long 22wk cycles that included Test.

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    14 weeks at 60mg. Milk thistle the eintire time.

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    i will be running var at 80mg ed for 16 weeks in the summer,along with other goodies!!

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    how much milk thisle a day should be taken, an does it have any effect if lactose intolerable?

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    1000mgs/1gm ED.
    Milk Thistle is just the name of the plant/herb, it is not related to cow's milk, so no lactose issues.

    Be sure the Milk Thistle is standardized. Standardized herbs provide uniformity of a single plant chemical batch after batch. Each extract delivers a quantified and measurable level of the targeted active ingredient in every serving (80% Silymarin in this case). This active ingredient is considered by science to be the key ingredient responsible for the herbs health benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32
    1000mgs/1gm ED.
    Milk Thistle is just the name of the plant/herb, it is not related to cow's milk, so no lactose issues.

    Be sure the Milk Thistle is standardized. Standardized herbs provide uniformity of a single plant chemical batch after batch. Each extract delivers a quantified and measurable level of the targeted active ingredient in every serving (80% Silymarin in this case). This active ingredient is considered by science to be the key ingredient responsible for the herbs health benefits.

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    Has it ever been proven that Milk Thistle will help de-tox the liver with aas use?

    "Bill Roberts" said in one of hes interviews that it doesnt help anything as far as liver-toxity is concern

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32
    1000mgs/1gm ED.
    Milk Thistle is just the name of the plant/herb, it is not related to cow's milk, so no lactose issues.

    Be sure the Milk Thistle is standardized. Standardized herbs provide uniformity of a single plant chemical batch after batch. Each extract delivers a quantified and measurable level of the targeted active ingredient in every serving (80% Silymarin in this case). This active ingredient is considered by science to be the key ingredient responsible for the herbs health benefits.

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    has it been proven that Milk Thistle will help during Orals Such as dbol , drol, var?

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    I just got some MIlk thistle from GNC I hope its working I went out and drank lite beer sat night... while taking d-bol......I take 800mg a day of Milk thistle

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Has it ever been proven that Milk Thistle will help de-tox the liver with aas use?

    "Bill Roberts" said in one of hes interviews that it doesnt help anything as far as liver-toxity is concern
    Okay, let’s go into some detail. Firstly, I’d never argue with a proven and established veteran like Bill Roberts, so let me begin by agreeing the clinical studies have indeed been anecdotal (mostly inconclusive with both positive, negative results), and below I’ll present some of the positive ones. Therefore, most of the support is from historical evidence and laboratory tests, which are highly positive. Let’s examine the aforementioned support:

    HISTORICALLY
    It's been used since ancient Greece, and closely associated with the health of the liver. This single factor is the bulk of it why it's used. Quite simply things that don't work tend to fall out of favor over time and this belief has endured. Arguably, so have many superstitions, so lets continue. Conditions including cirrhosis, viral and alcohol-induced hepatitis, and fatty infiltration of the liver have all shown improvement when treated with an extract of Milk Thistle. Even the poisons most dangerous to the liver, those contained in the Deathcap mushroom, can be effectively detoxified with Milk Thistle extract. (1)

    FUNCTIONING
    Milk Thistle yields three main active compounds known collectively as Silymarin, which work in a number of ways to restore liver health. Firstly, Silymarin inhibits the factors responsible for causing liver damage. As well, it increases the liver's content of a substance called glutathione which is responsible for detoxifying many chemicals, drugs and hormones. Silymarin also stimulates the growth of new liver cells so that damaged areas of the liver may be regenerated. (2)

    REFERENCES
    1. Pizzorno, J. & Murray, M. A Textbook of Natural Medicine, Volume II. John Bastyr College Publications, Seattle. (V:SilbM) 13, 1988.
    2. Murray, M. The He****g Power of Herbs,
    2nd Edition. Prima Publishing,
    California. 244245, 1995.
    3. Morazzoni, P. & Bombardelli, E. Fitoterapia, Volume LXVI. (1): 3334, 1995.
    4. Murray, M. The He****g Power of Herbs, 2nd Edition. Prima Publishing, California. 244, 1995.
    5. Ibid., 248.

    LAB TESTING - NATIONAL CANCER INSTITUTE
    http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/pdq/cam/milkthistle

    POSITIVE CLINICAL STUDY ABSTRACTS:
    AAS SPECIFIC STUDY
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_DocSum

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_DocSum

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_DocSum

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_DocSum

    I wouldn't say the evidence is overwhelming, because admittedly it isn't but if Bill Roberts told me rice and sea food weren't good for me, I'd point to Asia. Similarly, in this case I have to point to history and lab tests in the absence of research proof. So, he's the man, but if I'm using orals MT is in my arsenal.

    M.

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    Nice post, magic.

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    i use liv-52 myself!

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    i ran it for 18 weeks (40-80mg ED) - had my liver checked at week 7, 14 and 2 weeks after tho.

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    i ran one cycle at 8 weeks at 80mg/ED and a 12 week cycle @ 60mg/ED, i had about the same gains from both cycles, i prefer the 12 week though just because once vascularity sets in and veins start coming through everywhere you won't wanna get off, thats why i like the longer cycles with var.

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    I would like to run Anavar for the first time for 8 weeks but prices on pills running at least at 50mg ed is expensive. What is a good price for a pill running these days and can't u find a desent provider online? Orosco tell us youre results too. Maybe u can take before and after pictures. Do u plan on running it with something else or alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by orosco
    WHats the longest anyone has been on Anavar for..I plan on running 100mg ed for 10 weeks..Was wondering if anyone ran 12 weeks..
    Its nice, you'll be good, just make sure to have test or proviron in there.

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    I would be a lot more worried about your Lipid profiles than your liver. Var reeks havoc with Cholesterol.

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    I think im just going to do the 16 weeks total..Ima need 1800 damn QV 5mg tabs though..Cost me an arm and a leg..Im going to do 50mg for 6 weeks and up it to 100mg for 10 weeks or vice versa..Havent decided yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    I would be a lot more worried about your Lipid profiles than your liver. Var reeks havoc with Cholesterol.
    cardio and almonds and omega 3 should keep this in check. I have dropped 30 LDL's in a few months before. cholesterol can be controlled

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    one of the benifits of growth is lowering your cholestoral!

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    but not all of us do gh, wouldn't mind though, just pretty damn expensive.

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