Results 1 to 20 of 20

Thread: Do I Really Need Anti E's

  1. #1

    Do I Really Need Anti E's

    I AM IN MY SECOND WEEK OF A 15 WEEK CYCLE
    Do I Really Need To Take Anti E's I Have Arimidex New Bottle

    This Is My Cycle:

    750mg A/week Omnadren
    600mg A/week Decaqv
    50mg Ed Anadrol50

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Canada me2,eh..
    Posts
    3,011
    I think your send key is sticking a bit...

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    290
    you can BUMP your thread bro...yes you should use anti'es especially is your're using those compunds.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    E London,no SOURCES given
    Posts
    14,947
    nope you do not "really" need any anti's mate,i have never used or needed them!but i will always keep them on hand just in case!

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    E London,no SOURCES given
    Posts
    14,947
    oh yes you will need to take some b6 200mg for the deca prolactin issues!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    UK, Lancashire
    Posts
    5,233
    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    nope you do not "really" need any anti's mate,i have never used or needed them!but i will always keep them on hand just in case!
    Wow. I guess am prone to estrogenic side effects. I have to take a ton of letro all cycle.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    England
    Posts
    252
    Booz, what are the deca prolactin issues? havent come across this before.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    S.Florida by way of NY
    Posts
    7,473
    Do you really need to post this question a million times ???

    like booz said .... everyone is diff ..... so keep them on hand just in case

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    E London,no SOURCES given
    Posts
    14,947
    Quote Originally Posted by RAF3070
    Booz, what are the deca prolactin issues? havent come across this before.
    you will get gyno from test and you can get gyno from tren/deca wich is progesterone related,b6 ran at 200mg should help prevent this!

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Posts
    1,282
    Quote Originally Posted by RAF3070
    Booz, what are the deca prolactin issues? havent come across this before.
    Deca causes an increase in prolactin, a naturally occuring hormone found in both men and women. In women, it starts the production of milk during pregancy and after ward. In men, if has no known physiological purpose, but it is present. It is typically released from the pituatary in conjunction with GH. Deca makes more of this in the body. The result is prolactin or progesterone gyno. Nolva and Letro will not help with this, you need B6 or Bromo. There is another newer drug available as well, but it is more expensive and I have not seen it available other than with a script from a doctor. I have knowledge of this because I suffer from naturally high prolactin levels and was on a script of this other drug for several weeks last year. It was $15 per .05 mg.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Anywhere...
    Posts
    15,725
    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    you will get gyno from test and you can get gyno from tren/deca wich is progesterone related,b6 ran at 200mg should help prevent this!
    Agreed.

    For higher doses of Progestin's, Bromo/Dostinex may be needed.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Pitt/New Jersey/No source
    Posts
    3,554
    Not unless you want your girl to suck on your tities

  13. #13
    marcus300's Avatar
    marcus300 is offline ~Retired~ AR-Platinum Elite-Hall of Famer ~
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    ENGLAND
    Posts
    40,919
    prevention is always better than any cure, i always use them

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Glutes & Quads
    Posts
    9,519
    Alright lets get to the bottom of this. So many Anit E questions have been popping up lately.

    No one NEEDS an Anti E. There are no guidelines that say you have to take one. If you are prone to Gyno or just want to be extra careful then go right ahead. If you're worried about water retention and prefer minimal water weight then go right ahead. But no one should post that you absolutely NEED an Anti E. It's all goal oriented and a personal preference. Prevention is the key word when recommending an Anit E.

    I think people are forgetting that Estrogen will also give us gains. I think people are forgetting that by lower estrogen chances are that you wont gain as much as you could have. Obviously the word "gain" will revolve around ones goal and what could be a gain to others will mean didilly to me.

    I for one have never used nor needed an Anti-E. I do however have one incorporated in my upcoming cycle SOLEY b/c I'm using a long estered Test in my cutter. After the 12 weeks of Test E I will cut it out the and run several more weeks of prop.

    I really think this topic is getting blown out of proportion. Estrogen is not the Devil. Feel free to disagree, that's why this is an opne discussion board. If we all agree on the same things then we'd all be huge.
    Last edited by SPIKE; 02-07-2006 at 02:24 PM.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Anywhere...
    Posts
    15,725
    Progesterone is an E2 agonist so taking any kind of estrogen inhibitor will aid with reduction/prevention of its side effects.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    E London,no SOURCES given
    Posts
    14,947
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    Alright lets get to the bottom of this. So many Anit E questions have been popping up lately.

    No one NEEDS an Anti E. There are no guidelines that say you have to take one. If you are prone to Gyno or just want to be extra careful then go right ahead. If you're worried about water retention and prefer minimal water weight then go right ahead. But no one should post that you absolutely NEED an Anti E. It's all goal oriented and a personal preference. Prevention is the key word when recommending an Anit E.

    I think people are forgetting that Estrogen will also give us gains. I think people are forgetting that by lower estrogen chances are that you wont gain as much as you could have. Obviously the word "gain" will revolve around ones goal and what could be a gain to others will mean didilly to me.

    I for one have never used nor needed an Anti-E. I do however have one incorporated in my upcoming cycle SOLEY b/c I'm using a long estered Test in my cutter. After the 12 weeks of Test E I will cut it out the and run several more weeks of prop.

    I really think this topic is getting blown out of proportion. Estrogen is not the Devil. Feel free to disagree, that's why this is an opne discussion board. If we all agree on the same things then we'd all be huge.
    you always put it sooooo much nicer than me!!!

  17. #17
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    U.S.A.
    Posts
    951
    Yes, use them.

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    gates of hell
    Posts
    5,718
    I will usually take ldex, but not in any extreme dosages. Just helps out my blood pressure and bloated look.

    There is some long held myth that estradiol has a slight anabolic effect and upregulates androgen receptors. I see no evidence of this. Estrogen is known to atrophy skeletal muscle tissue. I think the myth comes from BBs noticing less results on cycle when concurrently taking nolvadex. This is true, but more a direct effect of nolvadex than any of the claims about nolva (lower IGF-I (which it does, but blood IGF-I levels dont really contribute to muscle anabolism) and blocking estrogen).

    I am open to discussion on this, as my knowledge on it is rather limited.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Anywhere...
    Posts
    15,725
    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    I will usually take ldex, but not in any extreme dosages. Just helps out my blood pressure and bloated look.

    There is some long held myth that estradiol has a slight anabolic effect and upregulates androgen receptors. I see no evidence of this. Estrogen is known to atrophy skeletal muscle tissue. I think the myth comes from BBs noticing less results on cycle when concurrently taking nolvadex. This is true, but more a direct effect of nolvadex than any of the claims about nolva (lower IGF-I (which it does, but blood IGF-I levels dont really contribute to muscle anabolism) and blocking estrogen).

    I am open to discussion on this, as my knowledge on it is rather limited.
    Doesnt bl*ody look like it Mike. Intresting response, as always.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Glutes & Quads
    Posts
    9,519
    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    you always put it sooooo much nicer than me!!
    Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the gist is similar I just like to elaborate. Hopefully by doing so it will keep future posts to a minimum. Do have to admit it gets to me when I type up a near novel then there are no more posts after mine. DAM IT!!!

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •