would 6 amps of susta be considered as a cycle??

[eR0s_05]

im 22 yrs old, 5'8, 185 lbs and had started a cycle w/ susta.. 1 amp a wik & im already at my 6th wik then i was advised to stop for 4 weeks then continue w/ another six... Can this be considered a cycle?? & is it ok to stop for 4 weeks then continue?? advices pls...

just found out bout this site & wanted to ask u guys for inputs...
... knowledge bout AS use here in the Phil. is way too scarce....

Thanx!

[tranzit]

No, stopping is not an option unless you want to go through PCT twice. A proper first cycle is 12 weeks at 250-500 per week. I would at the least.. get yourself 6 more sustas. Do more research man.

[goalseeker]

No, stopping is not an option unless you want to go through PCT twice. A proper first cycle is 12 weeks at 250-500 per week. I would at the least.. get yourself 6 more sustas. Do more research man.

absolutely....stopping now would be a big mistake...

[eR0s_05]

k.tnx.. then is it ok for a susta & stanazol only cycle?

[Swifto]

im 22 yrs old, 5'8, 185 lbs and had started a cycle w/ susta.. 1 amp a wik & im already at my 6th wik then i was advised to stop for 4 weeks then continue w/ another six... Can this be considered a cycle?? & is it ok to stop for 4 weeks then continue?? advices pls...

just found out bout this site & wanted to ask u guys for inputs...
... knowledge bout AS use here in the Phil. is way too scarce....

Thanx!

One amp per week containing 250mg/wk isnt really enough to see any real gains. You may gain 2-3lbs but dont expect much. Your better off injecting 2 amps, slplitting 1ML (250mg/wk) Monday and Thursday. You could also split the dosage up into EOD shots in the week, to gain the full effects of its short/long acting esters.

6 weeks on 4 weeks off is a very bad idea. The long acting esters in the Sust will be reaching peak levels at between weeks 6-9, so, stopping it at this time is pointless. Get some more Sust, up your dose and stay on for about 10-12 weeks. An Anti-Estrogen also may be required, though, many just keep them on hand.

A single estered testosterone would have been better suited than Sust, as its more difficult to attain stable blood plasma levels with a mixtured estered compound, like Sust, than it is a single estered one.

Know about estrogen related side effects? The synthetic testosterone your injecting will aromotase to estrogen, this is where side effects begin to arise. Acne, Gyno and water retention often become apparent. Research on Nolvadex, SERM's, AI's etc...These compounds ar taken to combat estrogen related side effects.

Know about PCT and the varied protocols? Research Nolva, Clomid, HCG and spend some time in the 'PCT Forum'. For my PCT i run HCG/Nolva/Proviron, but this may not work for you.

Its fairly evident you havent done much research and it would have been more wise to do this before embarking on a cycle including any form of AS/ProHormone. Spend some time in the 'Education Forum' and read/study some of the posts their. Use the search feature also.

[goalseeker]

good post swifto...

[Swifto]

k.tnx.. then is it ok for a susta & stanazol only cycle?

For a first cycle all you need is test only. There is no need for other compunds at this time IMHO. Stick to your Sust. Adding more compounds will only complicate things like side effects. Master the basics first, then think about stacking and what AS work in synergy together.

The common rule is the majority of cycles is that any form of testosterone is involved as the base of the cycle. You will find this in your research.

[Swifto]

good post swifto...

Thanks. I didnt want to hand it to him on a plate, left a bit of room for his own research/development.

[eR0s_05]

tnx bro... i will... so for now continue with another 6, then pct. we only have HCG & Nolva here.. is this 2 just fine for pct? & can i up the dosage now for 2 amps?? its been for 14 days now since my last shot... do i stil have a chance to get back and redo it... damn! so stupid.....

[tranzit]

One amp per week containing 250mg/wk isnt really enough to see any real gains. You may gain 2-3lbs but dont expect much. Your better off injecting 2 amps, slplitting 1ML (250mg/wk) Monday and Thursday. You could also split the dosage up into EOD shots in the week, to gain the full effects of its short/long acting esters.

6 weeks on 4 weeks off is a very bad idea. The long acting esters in the Sust will be reaching peak levels at between weeks 6-9, so, stopping it at this time is pointless. Get some more Sust, up your dose and stay on for about 10-12 weeks. An Anti-Estrogen also may be required, though, many just keep them on hand.

A single estered testosterone would have been better suited than Sust, as its more difficult to attain stable blood plasma levels with a mixtured estered compound, like Sust, than it is a single estered one.

Know about estrogen related side effects? The synthetic testosterone your injecting will aromotase to estrogen, this is where side effects begin to arise. Acne, Gyno and water retention often become apparent. Research on Nolvadex, SERM's, AI's etc...These compounds ar taken to combat estrogen related side effects.

Know about PCT and the varied protocols? Research Nolva, Clomid, HCG and spend some time in the 'PCT Forum'. For my PCT i run HCG/Nolva/Proviron, but this may not work for you.

Its fairly evident you havent done much research and it would have been more wise to do this before embarking on a cycle including any form of AS/ProHormone. Spend some time in the 'Education Forum' and read/study some of the posts their. Use the search feature also.

Swift good post but... you can very easly put on 20-30 lbs in a first cycle with one amp of sust a week.

[eR0s_05]

waiting for any input....

[Swifto]

tnx bro... i will... so for now continue with another 6, then pct. we only have HCG & Nolva here.. is this 2 just fine for pct? & can i up the dosage now for 2 amps?? its been for 14 days now since my last shot... do i stil have a chance to get back and redo it... damn! so stupid.....

Up the dose now. Inject 1ML every Mon/Thurs.

HCG and Nolva is fine for PCT. Run it like:

wk 1-4 HCG 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri)
wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED

[eR0s_05]

14 days past, is it still good to continue??

[eR0s_05]

sori but im really freaking out.. so i wud run pct ryt after the 6 amps?? or aftr a week ??

[eR0s_05]

tnx. this has been a great help.. now i know why people hir in my place dont get huge>> people mess w/ thier minds & lots of bull infos... me as an example...

[eR0s_05]

nyone stil hir?

[eR0s_05]

ok. il be working on it... hav 2 go now.. be posting soon.. tnx tranz & swifto!..

[ODC0717]

Here's some PCT start times taken from the PCT forum...It sounds like you should go there and read....

Anadrol/Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
Deca: 21 days after last injection
Dianabol: 24 hours after last administration
Equipoise: 21 days after last injection
Fina: 3 days after last injection
Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
Sustanon: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate: 18 days after last injection
Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days after last injection
Testosterone Suspension: 24 hours after last administration
Winstrol: 24 hours after last administration


So, according to this, you'd begin PCT 18 days after you last sust shot.

[ODC0717]

One more thing, you should up the dose to 500mg/wk. 250mg Mon & Thus. like Swifto said. That means you're going to need a lot more amps then jsut 6, as this would be enough for 3 weeks at the above dose. Idealy you should run the cycle for at least 10-12 weeks, so that means that you'd need about 20-24 amps. This is why I don't like sust. You'd be better off going with a single ester test like enth or cyp. If you like ED or EOD shots then go with prop. You'll save more money per cycle if you go with a single ester as opposed to a blend. JMHO, though.