I Want 20lbs Out Of This Cycle

[grizzly_adams]

This is my first cycle, I've waited for a few years to use AAS. I'm 23, 6'0, 225 lbs and 15-18% bf. My cycle is as follows:
wks 1-5 Dbol 20-30mg ED
wks 1-10 EQ 400mg
wks 1-10 (Testoviron 250) 500mg
PCT
wks 11-14 Nolvadex 20mg ED
wks 11-14 Tongkat ali
wk12 clomid 300 mg day 1, 100 mg for 10 days, and 50 mg for 10 more days
wks 15,16 Clenbuterol
wks 17,18 off
wks 19, 20 Clenbuterol

Do you think I can gain and keep 20lbs with this cycle? how much tongkat should I use and for how long? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

[Unoid]

gaining 20lbs of pure muscle for a cycle is nearly impossible w/o eating like a horse which means you'll most likely also put on FAT. You'll also get water bloat.

but if you know that you'll put on 5lbs fat 5lbs of water bloat, so you'll gain 10lbs lean muscle. sounds right.

If you meant 20lbs of lean body mass (muscle) then you're gonna need to eat 5-6k calories cleanly and take 400+grams of protein a day. I'd run T3 on your cycle while eating so much to keep from gaining fat hopefully.
then clen for pct like you say to help from losing muscle and also shed more fat hopefully.

[SPIKE]

That looks like a lot of gear for a first cycle if you ask me........

[MetalGod]

This is my first cycle, I've waited for a few years to use AAS. I'm 23, 6'0, 225 lbs and 15-18% bf. My cycle is as follows:
wks 1-5 Dbol 20-30mg ED
wks 1-10 EQ 400mg
wks 1-10 (Testoviron 250) 500mg
PCT
wks 11-14 Nolvadex 20mg ED
wks 11-14 Tongkat ali
wk12 clomid 300 mg day 1, 100 mg for 10 days, and 50 mg for 10 more days
wks 15,16 Clenbuterol
wks 17,18 off
wks 19, 20 Clenbuterol

Do you think I can gain and keep 20lbs with this cycle? how much tongkat should I use and for how long? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

your body fat might be on the high side for throwing Dbol in at the beginning...do you care if you gain more fat? are you planning to just lean down after the cycle once you've gained some new muscle.

it's impossible to keep all of your gains., most of the weight gain is water retention ( i heard somewhere that if you gain 20lbs on cycle, only a couple pounds of that is pure muscle tissue). If you ccould kep all your gains, everyone on this board would weigh 3 bills and look like big ron!

[Booz]

That looks like a lot of gear for a first cycle if you ask me........

agree jay!!
1st cycle should consist of one compound imo test e!
500mg 10-12 weeks.
far too much gear for a 1st cycle mate,if you were to get a bad reaction how would you know what gave you this if you are running three compounds!
stick to test only then build your way up,start small then you will have more room to manouver along the line!!JMO!

[powerliftmike]

You cant accomplish all your goals in one cycle, to many ppl try to do it. Just stick to test e or cyp 500mg/wk for 10-12 wks for your first cycle. You can do a kickstart with dbol if you want too. But nothing else.

[Smiley619]

stop the eq a week before the test. and good luck with gaining 20 pounds playa

[Unoid]

even when I started hitting the gear I never knew how important diet was in cutting, bulking, or making muscle.

Ultimatly after lots of reading on here and knowing a lot of experiences to gain muscle, lose fat, etc its 90% exercise and diet, 10%gear/supplements.

if you know how to use a right diet and exercise properly perhaps that 10% could turn into 15-20%

[DSM4Life]

How do people come on here and say hello this is my first cycle and list 100 different kinds of gear ?

I know a lot of you guys have been around for a while but these first cycle threads are starting to piss me off or maybe its just roid RAGE.

[hosam4ever]

if u insiste on more than runing test alone then id swape eq with deca will give a better results