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02-08-2006, 08:55 PM #1
***PINNACLE, which is the better bulker??***
sup guys...and pinn,
just had a quick question about a bulking cycle for the future. i was thinking of these two cycles:
wk1-12 750-1000mgs test (omna's)
wk1-4 dbol 30mgs ed
or
wk1-12 750mgs test
wk1-11 deca 500mgs
iv ran deca and test before with a 400/500 ratio, i responded well but gained alot of water. i was thinking of running just a gram of test with some letro to combat bloating and maybe throw in some dbol. iv never gone over 700mgs test wk before. this would be my 3rd cycle. i plan on running this next winter. opinoins, suggestions?Last edited by testosterona; 02-08-2006 at 09:10 PM.
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02-08-2006, 09:05 PM #2
and yes, my dick is limp from my previous cycle. no, i donhh't plan on running this soon. hehehehe
maybe some could post there results of just ONE g of test alone, id love to loeave the deca behind and just run test. i would think it would be a quality bulker.
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02-08-2006, 09:19 PM #3
are you really 19? and thinking of using a gram of test!!
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02-08-2006, 09:21 PM #4
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02-08-2006, 09:28 PM #5Originally Posted by kloter1
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02-08-2006, 09:30 PM #6
i cant really give any advice since i havent hit any aas yet. but lord those are high doses.
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02-08-2006, 09:47 PM #7Senior Member
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Test, dont get cought up in the test trap bro... by that i mean people up their test everytime they do a new cycle.. you dont have to do that.. and at your age 500-750 is MORE then enough.
Id run 500-750 1-15 Omna mon weds friday injections. with 40mg Dbol for 4 weeks, kick in with some Deca at 5-600mg a week.
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02-08-2006, 09:49 PM #8
What kind of goals do you have? This is one of my favorites:
weeks 1-3 50mg dbol /dy
weeks 1-12 700mg test prop or 1000mg test e per week
weeks 1-8 75-100mg per day tren a
weeks 9-12 100-150mg drol/dy
I run ldex with it, so water retention is mostly under control. Wicked strength and weight gain. Notice the lack of primo
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02-08-2006, 09:55 PM #9Originally Posted by kloter1
any input on the question at hand dudes?
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02-08-2006, 09:59 PM #10Originally Posted by tranzit
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02-08-2006, 10:00 PM #11Originally Posted by testosterona
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02-08-2006, 10:05 PM #12
Deff too much IMO for your age Test, slow down a bit and take a look at what you're doing. Don't get caught up in this game and let it get out of hand so early. Best of luck bro, remember at 20yrs old I grew off of 250mg/wk of Test and 300mg/wk of Deca for my first two cycles. Keep it simple.
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02-08-2006, 10:10 PM #13
Where the hell is Pinn at? He is such a conservative when it comes to cycle doses.............lol
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02-08-2006, 10:14 PM #14Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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02-08-2006, 10:15 PM #15Originally Posted by Jayhova
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02-08-2006, 10:24 PM #16Originally Posted by testosterona
Same goes for these 2 compounds. They both have different jobs in the body. Using a high dose of one will achieve results. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuut running moderate doses of both of them will be beneficial as they will perform different duties in the body.
Synergy is the key work in this game. Or should I say Lifestlye...........
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02-08-2006, 10:24 PM #17
agreee, i think that cycle would be great. thanks for the reply, and LMK about "primming my body" sounds interesting. i guess that makes sense, to run tow compounds and get that synergy intested of just running test at a high dose. thanks for the input fellas.
test
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02-08-2006, 10:26 PM #18Originally Posted by Jayhova
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02-08-2006, 10:28 PM #19Originally Posted by testosterona
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02-08-2006, 10:38 PM #20
i know bro. i really hope you guys understand that i am and will continue to do this right. i'm not rushing by any means. i will get my BW done and keep an eye on my body. i'm not the type to be careless about putting substances into myself. thanks for the help. i think this question is a legitament one and there is no need to lecture me about my age and question my responsiblility. this is not aimed at any of you, just a heads up to those parents out there, lol. none the less, thanks for the tips. i will keep all into consideration.
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02-08-2006, 11:08 PM #21
Normally a 19yr old will not respond as well as say a 22 yr old to the same dosage of Test. Obviously the 19yr old is producing more than enough in the first place for optimal growth and by cycling at this young of an age would be more detrimental to your endicrine system than good. If I only would have known then what I know now Anyway, Jay put it well. Try a more moderate dosage approach and more so learn how your body responds to diet and training in the next few years rather than cramming more juice to get the gains. Just lookin out, you'll do fine Test, good things come with time.
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02-08-2006, 11:20 PM #22Member
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test. those are big doses...u and me are in the same boat...trust me man i feel you..i want to run a gram of test..but i know i still could get something out of 500....bro i blew up with tren ...kinda kept a lot leaner also...hit me up with a pm sometime havnt talked to you in a bit
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02-08-2006, 11:21 PM #23
Whoa there test. I wouldnt go hopping on a gram yet at your age. You got plenty of time like the others have said. Keep it moderate for now and really concentrate on that diet.
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02-09-2006, 12:12 AM #24Originally Posted by testosterona
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02-09-2006, 12:28 AM #25Originally Posted by chest6
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02-09-2006, 12:39 AM #26Originally Posted by testosterona
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02-09-2006, 12:49 AM #27Originally Posted by chest6
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02-09-2006, 12:51 AM #28
I find using more compounds at more reasonable doses reaps more gains than say a high dose of one compound. Only have one cycle with a higher dose and more than a few with multiple. I'd say if you were to run Dbol /Test/deca run it as follows. Btw, wasn't saying you were too young just stating the obvious. We're all lookin out for you Test, we know you have basic knowledge of different compounds.
Dbol: 30-50mg/day wks 1-4(or 6)
Test: 750mg/wk 1-12 (since last cycle you did 600)
Deca: 400mg/wk 1-11
This would put you a bit over a gram total but still be resonable dosages at your level IMO.
This stack should do you well building Mass if that is what you are aiming for. Simple, yet very effective.
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02-09-2006, 12:55 AM #29
BD, thanks for the input my friend. this is exactly what i was looking for. sounds like yo have had better results with multiple compounds rather than one with a higher dose. real world exp is the best advice, thanks for sharing. i have run deca at 400mgs before, but with the test dose at 750, i see no need to increase that. that cycle looks good, i appriciate the time as always man
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02-09-2006, 12:56 AM #30
test and deca work in completely different ways. jay summed it up with synergy. a wider variety with a lower dosage is almost always what i hit up
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02-09-2006, 01:00 AM #31Originally Posted by testosterona
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02-09-2006, 01:06 AM #32
That's a lot of assumption in one post lol...
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02-09-2006, 01:06 AM #33Originally Posted by testosterona
My reccomendation would be: 100mg/day drol for 4 weeks, 500-750mg/week Test for 12weeks.
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02-09-2006, 01:06 AM #34
i actualy had alot of sides w/ deca /test. alot of bloat and alot of acne. when i ran test alone this last cycle, i had no sides. deca is kinda hard on me, kinda sucks, it's a great mass drug.
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02-09-2006, 01:08 AM #35Originally Posted by Spyder
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02-09-2006, 01:08 AM #36Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
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02-09-2006, 01:09 AM #37
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02-09-2006, 01:10 AM #38
lol, hey Test. Leave the deca out and try a different compound. Since Pinn is no where to be seen, I'll say PRIMO hahaha or Eq at a slightly higher dose.
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02-09-2006, 01:10 AM #39Originally Posted by testosterona
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02-09-2006, 01:11 AM #40
lol, looks like an ethiopian that's never been outside.
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