winny only cycle??

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 08:48 AM

1) does anyone think that a winny only cycle is a good idea...or is it just a bad idea all around?

Im 24. 5'11'' 210. Looking to get leaner and firmer. I am aware that my diet and cardio is the key to success. I dont know my bf% but i would consider myself more fat than muscular. I weight lift and do cardio 4-5 times a week. I have read that some people advacate a winny only cycle...but some do not...I have never done a cycle and I came across some winny. I also have clen .

2) should I run winny and clen together or use clen near the end of my cycle?

3) do i need to start the winny off slow and go up on dosages?

4) whats a good dosage? 1 cc to start and go up or stay at 1 cc the whole way?

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

1) does anyone think that a winny only cycle is a good idea...or is it just a bad idea all around?

Im 24. 5'11'' 210. Looking to get leaner and firmer. I am aware that my diet and cardio is the key to success. I dont know my bf% but i would consider myself more fat than muscular. I weight lift and do cardio 4-5 times a week. I have read that some people advacate a winny only cycle...but some do not...I have never done a cycle and I came across some winny. I also have clen .

2) should I run winny and clen together or use clen near the end of my cycle?

3) do i need to start the winny off slow and go up on dosages?

4) whats a good dosage? 1 cc to start and go up or stay at 1 cc the whole way?

is it winny tablets??

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 08:52 AM

sorry..no its the injectable...

**Massacre** · 02-09-2006, 08:53 AM

Bad idea. Run test then we'll talk.

**marcus300** · 02-09-2006, 08:55 AM

first cycle stick with the basic test only for 12 weeks 500mg per week, but if your fat id sort your diet out before you even think about gear,
how long you been training?

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 08:55 AM

why test?

chinups · 02-09-2006, 08:55 AM

Winny Zambon alone can be worth while. Nothing major but can see some tightening up and leaning out. I like my results.

Test with it would be better but u do get results alone

Test=Mother of all steriods !

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 08:55 AM

on and off for 3 years..but steadily for 5 months...

**Massacre** · 02-09-2006, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

why test?

Because test should be the base of every cycle you run.

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 08:56 AM

which test? any of them?

**Massacre** · 02-09-2006, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by chinups

Winny Zambon alone can be worth while. Nothing major but can see some tightening up and leaning out. I like my results.

Test with it would be better but u do get results alone

Test=Mother of all steriods!

I hated Zambon.

**Massacre** · 02-09-2006, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

which test? any of them?

Enanthate or Cypionate will due for your case. 500mg split into 2 doses a week of 250mg.

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

sorry..no its the injectable...

i ran winny zambon 150mg a week. split up to mon50mg wed50mg fri50mg for 10week and got a good results. stronger and cut up. i suppose you could run clen aswell for pct but keep asking and youll get your answer

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 08:59 AM

so basically if im going to run winny...i should run test with it...ok..good.

so I should split the dosages of test and take winny eod while on test?

**marcus300** · 02-09-2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

on and off for 3 years..but steadily for 5 months...

if you have only been steadily training for 5 months i would not touch any gear, design a good diet and training program and get a good solid base to work from.

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Massacre

Enanthate or Cypionate will due for your case. 500mg split into 2 doses a week of 250mg.

my next cycle is test and deca

cant wait

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 09:00 AM

ok...50 mg ...is that 1 cc?

**Massacre** · 02-09-2006, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

ok...50 mg ...is that 1 cc?

I think you should do alot more research being that it seems you have no idea what you're doing.

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

so basically if im going to run winny...i should run test with it...ok..good.

so I should split the dosages of test and take winny eod while on test?

dont have to

**goose** · 02-09-2006, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by spencer

i ran winny zambon 150mg a week. split up to mon50mg wed50mg fri50mg for 10week and got a good results. stronger and cut up. i suppose you could run clen aswell for pct but keep asking and youll get your answer

No wonder you got bad results,winny at 150mg ED is truly amazing.

goose4..

**SwoleCat** · 02-09-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Massacre

I think you should do alot more research being that it seems you have no idea what you're doing.

fo' sho'....

~SC~

chinups · 02-09-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

ok...50 mg ...is that 1 cc?

LOL??

WHAT DUDE???

RESEARCH FIRST KID!!!! u don't get shat, stick shat and then ask questions later. I researched for 2 yrs b4 my first cycle. Most smart ppl do

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

No wonder you got bad results,winny at 150mg ED is truly amazing.

goose4..

150mg a week

**Xtralarg** · 02-09-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

if you have only been steadily training for 5 months i would not touch any gear, design a good diet and training program and get a good solid base to work from.

Good advice.

**Massacre** · 02-09-2006, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by SwoleCat

fo' sho'....

~SC~

FoshEeZy my NeeZy

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 09:03 AM

i have been reading on here for a few weeks, but everyone has different opinions on everything. some say winny only cycle is good, while others say it is bad. Ive learned that everyone reacts differently.

**vitor** · 02-09-2006, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by goose4

No wonder you got bad results,winny at 150mg ED is truly amazing.

goose4..

He said 150mgs every week. Had it been 150mgs ed, then it would have been a diffrent story...

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

i have been reading on here for a few weeks, but everyone has different opinions on everything. some say winny only cycle is good, while others say it is bad. Ive learned that everyone reacts differently.

imo winny only would be best for 1st cycle

**Massacre** · 02-09-2006, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

i have been reading on here for a few weeks, but everyone has different opinions on everything. some say winny only cycle is good, while others say it is bad. Ive learned that everyone reacts differently.

Winny only=BAD.

Go look at the winstrol profile on AR.

**SwoleCat** · 02-09-2006, 09:05 AM

There is a right way to do things, and a wrong way.

You will want to base your decision upon those who actually know WTF they are talkin' about. Lots of people here who chime in don't know their (__!__) from a hole in the ground.

~SC~

**vitor** · 02-09-2006, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

i have been reading on here for a few weeks, but everyone has different opinions on everything. some say winny only cycle is good, while others say it is bad. Ive learned that everyone reacts differently.

You will get some result with running winny solo. 50mgs ed is a minimum dose though!
If you want to harden up, look into stacking the winny with primo and some proviron .

**marcus300** · 02-09-2006, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by marcus300

if you have only been steadily training for 5 months i would not touch any gear, design a good diet and training program and get a good solid base to work from.

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 09:10 AM

I appreciate everyone helping me out... this is exactly the reason why Im asking questions because I am new to this. I am asking the questions that I need answers to. The profile of winny on steroid .com says its good gear to use. could someone then explain the mg=cc/ml ...Ive been looking for that but everyone says mg's, but how does that measure up to ml's and cc's?

**marcus300** · 02-09-2006, 09:12 AM

i did try!!

chinups · 02-09-2006, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by Massacre

Winny only=BAD.

Go look at the winstrol profile on AR.

1 Have you done winstrol only??
2 If you did was it your 1st cycle?

No flame no shat talking just wondering if you have such a strong opinion you shuold have experience.

I did zambons and dbols both at very very light dosages and had success

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

I appreciate everyone helping me out... this is exactly the reason why Im asking questions because I am new to this. I am asking the questions that I need answers to. The profile of winny on steroid.com says its good gear to use. could someone then explain the mg=cc/ml ...Ive been looking for that but everyone says mg's, but how does that measure up to ml's and cc's?

itll say wat mg of winny is in the bottle on the bottle

**Johnymac** · 02-09-2006, 09:16 AM

i have a bottle of 20 ml

**vitor** · 02-09-2006, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by chinups

1 Have you done winstrol only??
2 If you did was it your 1st cycle?

No flame no shat talking just wondering if you have such a strong opinion you shuold have experience.

I did zambons and dbols both at very very light dosages and had success

Yeah, most guys here yust repeat what others are saying without any experience on their own, at the subject at hand!!

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Johnymac

i have a bottle of 20 ml

**spencer** · 02-09-2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by chinups

1 Have you done winstrol only??
2 If you did was it your 1st cycle?

No flame no shat talking just wondering if you have such a strong opinion you shuold have experience.

I did zambons and dbols both at very very light dosages and had success

same here 150mg p/w