Tongkat ali?

**jack000** · 02-09-2006, 03:25 PM

Tongkat ali?

***SPIKE*** · 02-09-2006, 03:27 PM

Question again???

We love to help but you need to do more then put a question mark after a supplement or drug.

**Papi93** · 02-09-2006, 03:27 PM

Active life of 8 hours.

**jack000** · 02-09-2006, 03:28 PM

I just wanna know what it is. sounds kinda strange.

***SPIKE*** · 02-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by jack000

I just wanna know what it is. sounds kinda strange.

**Pinnacle** · 02-09-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by jack000

I just wanna know what it is. sounds kinda strange.

It's a herbal root named after Muhammad Ali's first cousin,who was a tribal medicine doctor in Africa

**Papi93** · 02-09-2006, 03:46 PM

Here's a link from the supplement section:

red kat or others?

It's the most recent one I could find.

**NotSmall** · 02-09-2006, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

It's a herbal root named after Muhammad Ali's first cousin,who was a tribal medicine doctor in Africa

Nah, you got it wrong Pinn, Tongkat Ali is Swolecat's pornstar cousin who made his career as a cunnilingus specialist, back then they called him "The TongueCat" but he gave that all up and turned to Isam and changed his name to Tongkat Ali.

**Papi93** · 02-10-2006, 10:41 AM

Here is another link:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...10#post2459410

**Ntpadude** · 02-10-2006, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Papi93

Active life of 8 hours.

This suggests something that might be different from one's experience with the tongkat. Tongkat's effects are cumulative, for one its the only substance known that gradually reduces sex hormone binding globulins (SHBG's), so its effects on stimulating LH might only last 8 hours but the lower SHBG's and higher responsiveness to lower amounts of testosterone and increased free testosterone linger well beyond this 8 hour mark.

**Montgomery** · 02-10-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ntpadude

This suggests something that might be different from one's experience with the tongkat. Tongkat's effects are cumulative, for one its the only substance known that gradually reduces sex hormone binding globulins (SHBG's), so its effects on stimulating LH might only last 8 hours but the lower SHBG's and higher responsiveness to lower amounts of testosterone and increased free testosterone linger well beyond this 8 hour mark.

great info dude!

**Testostack** · 02-11-2006, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

It's a herbal root named after Muhammad Ali's first cousin,who was a tribal medicine doctor in Africa

LMFAO.....still the same old Pinn'

**bigbadwolf77** · 02-13-2006, 07:55 PM

do you guys take it during cycle or pct ? and is it just an extra boost to get ur woody going ?

**Ntpadude** · 02-14-2006, 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by bigbadwolf77

do you guys take it during cycle or pct ? and is it just an extra boost to get ur woody going ?

Tongkat ali reduces the "tollerance" effect to steroids because it reduces the SHBG's which cause the "tollerance" effect. Tongkat ali appears to stimulate LH and GSH even while on steroids causing an effect very similar to HCG , meaning you produce natural testosterone even while ON steroids.

The thinking is, if you are going to mess with steroids, its perhaps a very good idea to take tongkat ali continuously all thru your steroid cycles and on into PCT and beyond! It counteracts most of the bad side effects onto your reproductive system and ability to generate natural testosterone when off steroids. Tongkat ali can also allow you to get better results from using less AAS then without which can further reduce other negative side effects on your cholesterol levels which therefore reduce your risk of heart trouble as a result of using AAS. Tongkat ali allows you to not dip down so low on your testosterone levels as you enter PCT therefore reducing ACNE side effects and also tongkat ali has also been shown to protect your prostate from enlarging and its also been shown to be a general anti-cancer agent therefore reducing even more another negative side effects.

If you do 2 cycles or more a year or a cycle lasting more then 12 weeks, ideal would be take tongkat ali practically year round.

**Papi93** · 02-14-2006, 12:26 PM

Ntpadude, I found this:

I just found out that Redkat is a proprietary formula and not an extract. Cy Wilson said that no one will know so that it isn't copied. It will remain a mystery, I guess. I do not like knowing the details. Maybe I will go with an extract ratio, next time.

What are your thoughts?