Disadvantages of a Tren only cycle.

**promiscio** · 02-10-2006, 01:17 PM

Hey guys,
What are the disadvantages of a Tren only cycle? I know there have been topics de****g with this, but since it goes by so many different names (fina, trenbolone , tren, etc) its hard to pinpoint the exact topic. So if someone could just chime in, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

**vitor** · 02-10-2006, 01:22 PM

Libido problems could happen with a tren -only cycle, if thats a concern. Testosterone or proviron can prevent this!

**Booz** · 02-10-2006, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by vitor

Libido problems could happen with a tren-only cycle, if thats a concern. Testosterone or proviron can prevent this!

agreed!!

**Montgomery** · 02-10-2006, 01:25 PM

libido is a big one; few drugs, if any, shut you down harder than tren , and tren is not very androgenic so you'll basically be completely limp in a matter of weeks; also, insomnia, nervousness, sleepless nights, wicked mood swings, depression, etc; however these last side effects occur when you run test with it anyway. Nobody recommends a tren only cycle; running test with it will increase your gains and decrease your sides . . . who argues with that?

Montgomery

**speedtraining** · 02-10-2006, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by promiscio

Hey guys,
What are the disadvantages of a Tren only cycle? I know there have been topics de****g with this, but since it goes by so many different names (fina, trenbolone , tren, etc) its hard to pinpoint the exact topic. So if someone could just chime in, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

it doesn't have test in it haha.

**DEVLDOG** · 02-10-2006, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Montgomery

tren is not very androgenic

Montgomery

WHAT???

TREN IS 7 X MORE ANDROGENIC THEN TESTOSTERONE .

**vitor** · 02-10-2006, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Montgomery

libido is a big one; few drugs, if any, shut you down harder than tren , and tren is not very androgenic so you'll basically be completely limp in a matter of weeks; also, insomnia, nervousness, sleepless nights, wicked mood swings, depression, etc; however these last side effects occur when you run test with it anyway. Nobody recommends a tren only cycle; running test with it will increase your gains and decrease your sides . . . who argues with that?

Montgomery

Tren is exstremely androgenic! 5-times more androgenic than testosterone .

**NewHottness** · 02-10-2006, 02:11 PM

Trenbolone Enanthate & acetate = anabolic /androgenic ratio 500/500

Test = anabolic/androgenic 100/100

**promiscio** · 02-10-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by NewHottness

Trenbolone Enanthate & acetate = anabolic /androgenic ratio 500/500

Test = anabolic/androgenic 100/100

A lil more explanation about this.

Does adding test have a synergistic effect?

**primetime1** · 02-10-2006, 03:56 PM

yeah it keeps you able to bone ya girl, and the gains are pretty sick too, currently on a test/tren /winny run. test 500mg/w tren 200mg eod, winny to come week 9 at 50mg ed im liking this cycle alot

**taiboxa** · 02-10-2006, 03:58 PM

its ok if ur in my shoes and your g/f isnt putting out.. makes life easier actually u don suffer from SEXUAL FRUSTRATION like me kuz u dont have the URGE.. im so tempted to just run tren only SHOW THAT BITCH I DONT NEED HER!

**Vegas67** · 02-10-2006, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

its ok if ur in my shoes and your g/f isnt putting out.. makes life easier actually u don suffer from SEXUAL FRUSTRATION like me kuz u dont have the URGE.. im so tempted to just run tren only SHOW THAT BITCH I DONT NEED HER!

LOL I feel ya man

**kirk3624** · 02-10-2006, 08:05 PM

thoughts on short (4 week) test/tren cycle as opposed to 12 weeks. advantages if any? disadvantages?

**velvetlion** · 02-10-2006, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by kirk3624

thoughts on short (4 week) test/tren cycle as opposed to 12 weeks. advantages if any? disadvantages?

You would have to run it with a short ester test like propionate , but even at that, I would go 5-6 weeks. I am not opposed to short cycles but typically keep them at no shorter than 5 weeks.

**kirk3624** · 02-10-2006, 09:22 PM

can anyone elaborate on why short cycles of test prop or enth are not effective? I assume shorts of tren are ok?

the reason I am so interested in short cycles is because of an article on here that strongly suggests short tren cycles are easier on the body long term.

the reason I am interested in adding test to tren cycle is to combat some of trens sides.

thanks!

**Unoid** · 02-10-2006, 11:58 PM

TEST is the most basic and most benefical hormone in men.

If you don't supplement test into your body when you're suppressing/gettging shutdown you'll have lower levels of test. The androgenic or anabolic of other drugs don't matter as far as test is concerned with libido and depression.

**CRUISECONTROL** · 02-11-2006, 12:09 AM

I know that many schools drug tests dont test for tren , so someone might think about a tren only cyle but IMO it isnt worth the risk...... see previous posts

**vitor** · 02-11-2006, 12:45 AM

Ive run trenebolone without test once.(stacked with proviron ). I liked it alot, proviron took care of libido. The acne with tren wasnt nearly as bad when I left the test out!

**groundandpoundpwr21** · 02-11-2006, 10:12 PM

None.

**Bertz** · 02-20-2006, 08:47 PM

Any of you think taking a few grams of tribulus ED would have an adverse effect on shutting your test production down while on a fina only cycle?

**groundandpoundpwr21** · 02-21-2006, 09:02 PM

Wasnt there a guy on here hook put tribulus to the test. Got bloodwork done before and after and all it did was raise estrogen levels.

**taiboxa** · 02-22-2006, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by groundandpoundpwr21

Wasnt there a guy on here hook put tribulus to the test. Got bloodwork done before and after and all it did was raise estrogen levels.

yep thats what it does.
ts the estrogen that helps w/ sex drive and recovery.

look at HCG = recovery compound = RAISES ESTROGEN
look at Letro = STRONGEST AI out there = too much can remove practically all estrogen from system = NO SEX DRIVE = SHUT DOWN..
nolvadex = VERY EFFECTIVE for recovery = ESTROGEN

just some examples

read up on Narks Gyno Thread to fully understand.

**groundandpoundpwr21** · 02-23-2006, 04:04 PM

Makes sense since clomid itself is a weak estrogen. I remember along time ago people were posting about the abuse and over use of anti e's.

**Bertz** · 02-24-2006, 12:43 PM

pretty sure i took wayyyyyyyyyyy to much anti-e's on my frist cycle

had no sex drive what so ever, felt lazy and tired all day everyday... still had puffy nips though