Finally my first cycle has been thought up!!!

**Safety31** · 02-10-2006, 10:02 PM

After a long debate on what to do for my first cycle ive decided to do this:
weeks 1-12 600mg test p
weeks 6-12 350mg winstrol
Nolv throughout at 10mgs ed
Ldex throughout at .25mg ed

Final question what should i run for my pct??how long and how much??

**Montgomery** · 02-10-2006, 10:05 PM

that's an alright cycle

for PCT, do 100mg clomid ED for 4 weeks, and 40mg nolva ED for 4 weeks. Also you can throw in some proviron , tongkat ali, HCG , or letro. If you're not recovered by the 4 week mark, keep on running it for another month.

Montgomery

**Safety31** · 02-10-2006, 10:10 PM

anyone else??

**Safety31** · 02-10-2006, 10:22 PM

im also debating something else..i was going to make my test p at 150mg/ml so every shot would be 150mg eod...but then im being told to make it at 100mg/ml..if i wanted to do eod it would only come out to be like 400mg a week...how do i get to 600 without injecting ed??

**drak** · 02-10-2006, 10:41 PM

just do 300mg twice a week, for your first cycle.. i would recommend taking 250mg twice a week, which would be 500mg/week... this is what is recommended and probably what you should do.

**test is best** · 02-10-2006, 10:45 PM

why do you think its good

**test is best** · 02-10-2006, 10:46 PM

why do you think its good

**Pinnacle** · 02-10-2006, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by drak

just do 300mg twice a week, for your first cycle.. i would recommend taking 250mg twice a week, which would be 500mg/week... this is what is recommended and probably what you should do.

He's talking about Prop..not enanthate ..prop needs to be shot ED or EOD

**fLgAtOr** · 02-10-2006, 10:53 PM

Originally Posted by Safety31

im also debating something else..i was going to make my test p at 150mg/ml so every shot would be 150mg eod...but then im being told to make it at 100mg/ml..if i wanted to do eod it would only come out to be like 400mg a week...how do i get to 600 without injecting ed??

Make it at 100 mg/ml, prop is a little more difficult to hold than other esters. Step up to the plate and do ED injects. 75mg/day=525mg/wk...which is perfect.

*Edit* If not ED than 150 mg EOD. Keep it simple.

**legobricks** · 02-10-2006, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by drak

just do 300mg twice a week, for your first cycle.. i would recommend taking 250mg twice a week, which would be 500mg/week... this is what is recommended and probably what you should do.

i think your thinking of Testosterone Enanthate . Not Testostoerone Propoinate.

**legobricks** · 02-10-2006, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

He's talking about Prop..not enanthate..prop needs to be shot ED or EOD

AHHHHH you beat me to it Pinn!!!!!!!

**drak** · 02-10-2006, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

He's talking about Prop..not enanthate..prop needs to be shot ED or EOD

My bad, I misread that one... I'm getting tired...
BTW Pinnacle... I shot ya a PM, get @ me when you get a chance.

**Unoid** · 02-10-2006, 11:40 PM

I'd advise going with test E or Cyp, ED/EOD shots for prop alone then ED/EOD shots for winny.

not a fun thing to do. to me, the benefits of going with 1shots every 5-7days e/cyp outweigh the benefits prop has to e/cyp

**Safety31** · 02-11-2006, 12:16 AM

im going to go every other day at 150mg...then im just gonna do an oral winny cycle of 50mg each day...so if i rotate shots from butt, delt, and thigh i think ill be ok...1 inch needle i can handle...