Anavar only cycle

**Sir Auron** · 02-12-2006, 04:46 PM

I'm thinking of doing an Anavar only cycle. I'm bulking right now, so I'll continue to work out cleanly, but when I start to cut in mid march, I'm thinking of doing a mild Anavar cycle (70mg per week?) for 10 weeks. I wanna keep most of the mass when I cut, but at the same time I want to have more defined muscles and burn fat. Anavar seems like perfect for this.

I could have stacked Anavar with Primobolan , but since I want to keep it as safe as possible, I'm more interested in an Anavar only cycle. I wanna keep the dose low too, so what dose would you recommend to someone who weighs 200 lbs (which I will be at, when I'm finished bulking)?

What sort of gains and side effects can I expect to have on an Anavar only cycle? I have never used steroids before, so this will be my first cycle. Would it be wiser for me to do a Primo only cycle instead? Some people I have talked to says that Primo works better then Anavar, and that I should run a Primo only cycle instead, since I won't gain much with a low dosage Anavar only cycle (is this true?).

Yeah I know I am a noob, thats why I'm gathering as much information as possible about this before before I go through with it.

Any answers would be appreciated

**mickdiesel** · 02-12-2006, 04:50 PM

you mean 70mg ed? 70mg a week wont do anything at all, save your money and get winny

**Pimp_C** · 02-12-2006, 04:59 PM

what are you using to bulk right now

**Sir Auron** · 02-12-2006, 05:03 PM

I'm bulking cleanly. Have already gone up 8 Kg in the past 2 months. Some of it is of course unfortunately fat.

When you say ed after mg, what does that mean? I know this is a newbie question, but I have no idea what that means?

If I'd go with anything else then Anavar , then I'd rather go with Primobolan Depot instead of anything else like Masteron or Winstrol .

**legobricks** · 02-12-2006, 05:12 PM

ED means everday. But first you have to look at what you have. If you are trying to bulk, do a test cycle bro. And dont listen to "caban" about a winny only cycle. That is dumb and shouldnt even have been brought up. Try a test cycle for 10 weeks and see how you like it. ITs the best start. Are you afraid of injections?

**Sir Auron** · 02-12-2006, 05:17 PM

Ah ok, if you are supposed to take 70 mg ed, then ofcourse 70 mg per week wouldn't help shit. That means I'd be taking around 500 mg per week. I guess that would help alot more? Would it be sensible to do an anavar only cycle at 500 mg per week?

I wanna bulk cleanly, as I can put on weight quite easily, I'm more afraid of loosing weight when I start to cut in about a month. I'm not afraid of injections, I guess I'm more concerned with the side effects.

**DWayne** · 02-12-2006, 05:31 PM

if your are determined to do an oral cycle, you should also consider t-bol.

**Sir Auron** · 02-12-2006, 05:46 PM

Well t-bol can cause gyno, thats why I'm avoiding it. Anavar seems perfect as it has few side effects, and the gains would be good, or atleast thats what I thought.

**speedtraining** · 02-12-2006, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Ah ok, if you are supposed to take 70 mg ed, then ofcourse 70 mg per week wouldn't help shit. That means I'd be taking around 500 mg per week. I guess that would help alot more? Would it be sensible to do an anavar only cycle at 500 mg per week?

I wanna bulk cleanly, as I can put on weight quite easily, I'm more afraid of loosing weight when I start to cut in about a month. I'm not afraid of injections, I guess I'm more concerned with the side effects.

read around clearly ur not ready.

**sp9** · 02-12-2006, 05:49 PM

Anavar , gains as far as mass are not good. It will help with proper diet to drop more body fat and over all weight. Muscles will be hard and vasclar. I think you better do a few more months of reseach or you are going to empty you bank account on anavar and be very disappointed. If you don't want to do needles, you are not ready for steroids .

**Sir Auron** · 02-12-2006, 05:59 PM

Yeah I might not be ready, thats why I'm trying to learn more

Its not that I don't want to do needles, its more that I wanna stay on the safe side, so the only 2 steroids I could ever think of using are either Primo or Anavar , as they have few side effects. My diet is pretty good, there are no problems there. Infact my diet is really strict, and I often end up getting sick of the food I eat, cause it tastes like crap after a while. Especially sick of Tuna.

What I am aiming for is harder mucles and vascularity.

Read around some more, and 70mg ed, might be too much for someone like me, so I think a more sensible dose would be around 30mg ed, or am I wrong?

**DWayne** · 02-12-2006, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Well t-bol can cause gyno, thats why I'm avoiding it. Anavar seems perfect as it has few side effects, and the gains would be good, or atleast thats what I thought.

read the oral turinabol file again. No aromitization, and very few sides.

**nurseonroids** · 02-12-2006, 07:56 PM

i was woundering if you guys heard of anvar coming in 1cc. possible made in us

**tele20** · 02-12-2006, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by nurseonroids

i was woundering if you guys heard of anvar coming in 1cc. possible made in us

Anavar can come in an oral solution which can be measured in CC's. But as far as I know there is no injectable anavar.

**biganfg** · 02-12-2006, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Its not that I don't want to do needles, its more that I wanna stay on the safe side, so the only 2 steroids I could ever think of using are either Primo or Anavar, as they have few side effects.

By doing only these two comounds u will feel the side effects more, when it comes to your sex drive. Without test in ur cycle u will shutdown your nuts hard and thus any gains u make u will loose. If u want vascularity look into Test enanthate and eq as a first cycle. No matter what u need test in a cycle, keep on reading!

**Safety31** · 02-12-2006, 10:25 PM

u guys need to calm down..i did an anavar only cycle and a tbol only cycle and there wernt any problems..no lack of sex drive..no gyno..i did goot pct for anavar and no pct with tbol and everything is good...but everyone is different so its up to you

**topvega** · 02-12-2006, 10:34 PM

Var is expensive, and unless your bodyfat is pretty low, which if u are bulking it probably isn't, U not going to really get much out of it... it doesn't pack on alot of muscle, but hardens U up....

**vitor** · 02-13-2006, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by biganfg

By doing only these two comounds u will feel the side effects more, when it comes to your sex drive. Without test in ur cycle u will shutdown your nuts hard and thus any gains u make u will loose. If u want vascularity look into Test enanthate and eq as a first cycle. No matter what u need test in a cycle, keep on reading!

Nope! You got it wrong...

A primo/var cycle will only supress you, while a test cycle will shut down your natrual testosterone completely!

It will be easy to keep the gains on a primo/var cycle!

**testosterona** · 02-13-2006, 01:05 AM

vitor is right. but test is the SHITTT

**Sir Auron** · 02-13-2006, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

Nope! You got it wrong...

A primo/var cycle will only supress you, while a test cycle will shut down your natrual testosterone completely!

It will be easy to keep the gains on a primo/var cycle!

Thats the exactly the reason why I don't want to run a cycle with anything else then Primo/Anavar .

My bodyfat % is unfortunately not that low, since I'm bulking. I'm expecting it to even be around 20% when I'm done in a month.

How does this cycle look like, its a 10 weeks cycle with 4 weeks pct:

1-10 Anavar @50-60mg ed
1-10 Milk thistle @600mg ed
1-10 Hawthrone berry extract @750mg ed
1-10 Flush free niacin @500mg ed
8-13 Clenbuterol 100-120mcg ed

PCT:

10-14 nolvadex pct

How much nolva should I take?

**AleX-69** · 02-13-2006, 04:13 AM

I wouldn't run the Clen fpr 5 wks straight. I run clen 2wks on 2wks off during my diet.
Moreover i think you don't know you personal tolarance to clen. For me even 40mcg /day is sufficient. Try to work your way up to a dose you are comfortable with and stay there.

The rest of your cylce seems fine to me. I am running a similiar one on my own atm and I'm very pleased with the results.

(already gained 4lbs LBM and lost a lot of BF - I'm at the beginning of my 5th week)

RG

**Sir Auron** · 02-13-2006, 06:57 AM

Thanks for the advice

How much nolva should I take? 10 mg ed? And if I don't feel any side effects, such as loss of sexual drive, or even supressed production of natural testosterone , should I still take nolva?

I know many would take both nolva and clomid, but is that necessary?

**james21** · 02-13-2006, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Thats the exactly the reason why I don't want to run a cycle with anything else then Primo/Anavar .

My bodyfat % is unfortunately not that low, since I'm bulking. I'm expecting it to even be around 20% when I'm done in a month.

How does this cycle look like, its a 10 weeks cycle with 4 weeks pct:

1-10 Anavar @50-60mg ed
1-10 Milk thistle @600mg ed
1-10 Hawthrone berry extract @750mg ed
1-10 Flush free niacin @500mg ed
8-13 Clenbuterol 100-120mcg ed

PCT:

10-14 nolvadex pct

How much nolva should I take?

Nothing to combat lethargy/loss of sex drive/erection. Everyone is different though.... I would pick tbol way over var though.

**Swifto** · 02-13-2006, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Well t-bol can cause gyno, thats why I'm avoiding it. Anavar seems perfect as it has few side effects, and the gains would be good, or atleast thats what I thought.

Tbol's chemical structure is such that it cannot cause gyno.

Originally Posted by james21

Nothing to combat lethargy/loss of sex drive/erection. Everyone is different though.... I would pick tbol way over var though.

For increased sex drive, Proviron could be added at 25-50mg/ED.

**Sir Auron** · 02-13-2006, 03:18 PM

Can't proviron give you constant erections, and isn't an erections that lasts for longer then 4 hours unhealthy for the penis?

I could get some cialis. But I guess that stuff works best when you are already feeling aroused to a certain point.

If any of you guys experience loss of sexual drive, what do you guys use in that case? What would be best to use between Cialis and Proviron? How well would each of them work?

**Swifto** · 02-13-2006, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Can't proviron give you constant erections, and isn't an erections that lasts for longer then 4 hours unhealthy for the penis?

I could get some cialis. But I guess that stuff works best when you are already feeling aroused to a certain point.

If any of you guys experience loss of sexual drive, what do you guys use in that case? What would be best to use between Cialis and Proviron? How well would each of them work?

Proviron is used to prevent estrogen related side effects, increase sex drive (But not the point of "erections for 4 hours"), used for PCT to increase serum levels of LH/FSH, reduce SHBG due to its high binding affinity and some users claim it has a harderning effect on the muscles when used.

Cialis was devoloped purley for increasing/sustaining erections. So if you dont want "erections for 4 hours", I'd avoid it. I've read some funny stories on this board about how Cialis kept them hard for far longer than "4 hours"! It can have a very strong effect on some user's....and their tools...

**Sir Auron** · 02-13-2006, 03:33 PM

Yeah thats one of the problems with cialis and viagra. It can give you a painful erection, and if that erection lasts for longer then 4 hours, it can do permanent damage to your penis. You'd have to see a doctor right away, if something like this occurs, atleast thats what I've read in several articles.

I guess I'd have to get Proviron too. I could actually get cialis quite easily, but if Proviron works better, then I should probably go for that instead.

**Milky87** · 02-13-2006, 07:16 PM

Cialis lasts for about 36 hours. Dont get this confused with it giving you an erection for 36 hours though! You will still require arousal

**mickdiesel** · 02-13-2006, 08:26 PM

i never said a winny only cycle is a good idea, but its a better idea than var only, if hes gonna do a cycle without test at least do the less of all evils

**Sir Auron** · 02-14-2006, 03:59 AM

Why is a winstrol only cycle less evil then an Anavar only cycle?

Aren't Anavar/Primo "safer" then Winstrol?

**scriptfactory** · 02-14-2006, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Why is a winstrol only cycle less evil then an Anavar only cycle?

Aren't Anavar/Primo "safer" then Winstrol?

A Primo/Var cycle is safer and more expensive that a winny only cycle. You will probably get better gains as well. A winny only cycle is NOT "less evil" than Primo/Var.

**MAXIMA5** · 02-14-2006, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by Sir Auron

Why is a winstrol only cycle less evil then an Anavar only cycle?

Aren't Anavar/Primo "safer" then Winstrol?

Yes, they are. Winny kills your liver. Anavar will not.

**vitor** · 02-14-2006, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by MAXIMA5

Yes, they are. Winny kills your liver. Anavar will not.

Winstrol and anavar are both liver-toxic!

However, if you limit your use to 8-10 weeks, with atleast the same time off, chances are there will be no problems!

**MAXIMA5** · 02-14-2006, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

Winstrol and anavar are both liver-toxic!

However, if you limit your use to 8-10 weeks, with atleast the same time off, chances are there will be no problems!

I was just saying Winny is much more liver toxic than anaver, but you're right, anavar also causes some stress.

**Sir Auron** · 02-14-2006, 02:25 PM

Thanks for the replies guys

I have now decided to run the cycle I posted above, just have to get the gear by mid/late March, as thats when I'm going to start cutting.

1-10 Anavar @50-60mg ed
1-10 Milk thistle @600mg ed
1-10 Hawthrone berry extract @750mg ed
1-10 Flush free niacin @500mg ed
8-13 Clenbuterol start at 20 mcg ed to a dose I'm comfortable with (2 weeks on, 1 week off, 2 weeks on)

PCT:

10-14 nolvadex pct 10-20 mg ed

I'll also try to get hold of Proviron or Cialis.