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[dblock189]

Hey guys

Ive been reading on the boards for a while and now and think you guys are very helpful. Most of my questions have been answered so there wasnt a need to post. Now with more knowledge id like to find out a couple things and maybe even help out if i can. I am 21 5'9. I weigh 190 and have 15% fat. I was thinking of starting my first real cycle in march.

I want to lose some body fat and get cut up and also build some muscle. I know its difficult to do all and i should only reallly try to do one but i want to hear what you's have to say.

1-10 test cyp 500 mg's a week. I was going to do week 1 250mgs an week 2 500mg and stay on that and then at the end taper down. Although i heard that is old school and is not worth. What do you think.?
Also, I havent bought the test cyp yet so if you have a better suggestion let me know. I was thinking prop but only my first cycle and its for more advanced users. Maybe enthante or sus?
Week 8-12 winstrol 50mg eod
week 1-10 eq 200mgs
liquidex 1-12 .25mgs everyday
Pct novedex tabs -20mg I have 30 of them.
clomid two weeks after last shot. 300mgs, 100mg and then 50mgs for two weeks. I am also throwing in clen for a post cycle therapy for two weeks on two weeks off. I would run the eq at higher doses but dont have enough funds so i figure i do this and then later on in the future go from her on. I am thinking of doing all these anti estrogens because i have a small lump next to my nipple that is going away that i got from superdrol. I know this is kind of scattered. I dont mean to confuse you but i need some advice.
Thanks

Dblock

[dblock189]

mod or vet? somebody help?

[goalseeker]

whats your training exp. bro?

[Njectable]

no need to make this confusing, should just run Test E for 12 weeks with injections twice a week, each shot being 250mg. IMO if this is your first cycle thats the best cycle you could choose, forget about the winstrol and EQ. You could add clen into your pct. There's your cycle, bulk first, cut after, the clen will help u cut up after your cycle.

[dblock189]

goalseaker, i have been training on and off for about 3 years. I've been dieting and training hard for the last 7 months. I bench 315, squat is bad maybe like 285 just started working out legs recently.i dealdlift around the same. I know i messed up guys.
Motoxer23- i know i shouldnt make this confusing but i bought the winstrol and eq first and i know i need test as a base. Is there any particular reason why you choose Test E over Test C. I just want to get some knowledge about this. I appreciate your feedback bro's
Dblock

[Njectable]

well its been said a hundred times before, test is test, i just prefer Test E but if you have Cyp already just go with that, basically same thing just a different ester.

[goalseeker]

ya.. test E and C are almost identical...

[Njectable]

as for running the wintrol and EQ, i'm not gonna advise you to add that to your first cycle. It'd be nice if you just kept your first cycle simple so you can see how you react to the test, whereas if you go ahead and run the cycle your planning which includes test, winny, and EQ, if you end up getting side effects that are undesireable, and most sides are, then your not really gonna know which substance caused the sides.

[primetime1]

i like test e better than c imo, also, like motoxer said, keep it simple with the test, your gains will be determined by your diet. save the winny and eq for your next run. if you eat right, train right and rest enough you should have no problems gaining some nice lbm off test e at 500mg /week

where in jerz you from bro?

[dblock189]

Yea thank guys for all the info. I appreciate it. Yea thats what i am going to do just keep it simple. I am going to go with the test e 500mgs a week. I am also going to do some light cardio on it and diet good and hopefully get lean body mass and lose some body fat % if possible. We'll see that goes. By the way primetime Im from hudson county nj, what part of Jersey you from?

[usamm]

Good luck dblock!

[goalseeker]

Yea thank guys for all the info. I appreciate it. Yea thats what i am going to do just keep it simple. I am going to go with the test e 500mgs a week. I am also going to do some light cardio on it and diet good and hopefully get lean body mass and lose some body fat % if possible. We'll see that goes.

good plan bro.. dont forget to keep us posted along the way!!

[dblock189]

I definetly will keep you guys posted. Thank you for all your replies. You guys have been really helpful. One more question, if i get a 20ml bottle of test e, the shot is 250mgs each, at 2 a week that would last me 10 weeks. Will that be good enough? how bout if started at 250 and ended at 250? That would be 12 weeks? but not at 500mgs all the way. Also, my source says that there is a new test e that he is getting that comes at 350mg ml? Is that true? I personally never heard of it but then again i dont know much as you guys. I've done my reasearch but no luck. I am going to keep trying but im at work and sometimes dont have the time. Also, It is not an underground lab either i just havent gotten the name yet. He is very reliable so it got me thinking. I appreciate it guys.

Dblock

[primetime1]

hey dblock, im from sussex, on the boarder of morris. im glad your takin the simpler approach to your 1st cycle. with everything in check you should get some nice lbm gains. check in the diet forums for some advice on how to get the most outa this go.. once you do that im sure the diet part will be part of your day to day routine.. thats how its gone for me at least.. good luck with all that, also so far ive not seen 350 mg test e, possibly from some ugl but not from the pharma grade ive used/seen

[dblock189]

Yea thanks primetime. Oh yea primetime i work close to there actually. Yea i never heard of test e 350mgs and hes says its not an underground lab, he doesnt have ugl. I dont want to take any either. I sometimes get tested and i dont want to test positive for anything else. I no they dont test for juice but still. My friend started on a cycle and 2 weeks in get tested positive for pcp. He doesnt even do drugs. Messed up huh? he had to stop. I would tell you the name but ill get banned rite? If not let me know and i'll tell you just to give you a heads up incase you do use ugl or anybody else.

DBLOCK

[primetime1]

hey bro, its cool no need to toss names up here. i use human stuff and try not to mess with ugl, although ive seen some appe****g mixtures that id like to try and ugl prices are cheaper than what i get. well see how it goes..

your buddies situation.. that does suck, never know what you get with ugl so if you do use one make sure its a good name behind it.

[dblock189]

primetime-Yea I plan to use human stuff eventually. Although i hear there both good lots of people have mixed feelings about them. Right now i am going to use the vet stuff. It has a kangaroo on it. I belive its sydgroup. I've heard good and bad things about it. The only way to to do it is to try it myself so I will keep you posted. Yea it does suck thats why i prefer not to use it. I rather spend the extra money and know what i am getting.

DBLOCK

[primetime1]

exactly.. id rather know what im gettin and pay for it.. also,, def keep us updated on how it goes.. you think about starting a log?

[dblock189]

Prime- Yea I am thinking about starting a log. Do i put it all one shot or do i update it everyday till then end? or like once a week or so? how does that work exactly?

DBLOCK

[primetime1]

you can check out in the memebers cycle results forum or work out forums to see how other bros do it.. i have a log and i update it just about everday. its cool cuz others can chime in and give advice or just keep you motivated through out the go.. i plan on keepin my log past my cycle so i can check my progress. i think a day to day log is the most helpful. hopefully well see one for you up there and follow it along your jouney.
good luck.

[dblock189]

Yea thanks bro, I am definetly going to start one. I am going to check your right now. I didnt know you had one. Good luck with yours also

[primetime1]

thanks brotha.. ill be looking for yours to follow a long