M1T - I know it not real AAS but read please....

[dazbo]

right - cant afford a full cycle, n just wanna use the 500 tabs of M1T ive got. Had good results before but didnt do PCT so lost it all (Uneducated then)

Anyway, I know my stuff about it all, and I know the sides etc, but Im doing anyway cos really need to get my weight back - they worked b4 even if you think theyre shit.

Anyway just wondering, Cos I cant get any 4AD to use with it, lethargy etc will set in. But, Will I have any probs with etting it up wen just using M1T alone ?? I was thinking of adding high dose Tribulus to it to to help ??

What yer think - will I have libido probs or not ? Even with trib included ??

Also doing proper PCT.

4wK CYCLE of M1T followed by 4 weeks PCT.

Thanks

Darren

[longhorn814]

actually bro, M1T is a real steroid ..it undergoes no conversion in your body, unlike PH, thus making it a steroid. Im not a big fan of it b/c the lethargy sucks. I didnt have any problems getting it up, however I only took it for two weeks.

[benmooreben]

right - cant afford a full cycle, n just wanna use the 500 tabs of M1T ive got. Had good results before but didnt do PCT so lost it all (Uneducated then)

Anyway, I know my stuff about it all, and I know the sides etc, but Im doing anyway cos really need to get my weight back - they worked b4 even if you think theyre shit.

Anyway just wondering, Cos I cant get any 4AD to use with it, lethargy etc will set in. But, Will I have any probs with etting it up wen just using M1T alone ?? I was thinking of adding high dose Tribulus to it to to help ??

What yer think - will I have libido probs or not ? Even with trib included ??

Also doing proper PCT.

4wK CYCLE of M1T followed by 4 weeks PCT.

Thanks

Darren

IM ON MY FIRST CYCLE OF M1T GOING ON MY 2ND WEEK, HOW LONG DID U DO YOUR CYCLE FOR? AND IF I ONLY TAKE NOLVE AFTER WITH NOTHING ELSE WILL IT BE ENOUGH TO RECOVER? THANKS BEN

[dazbo]

IM ON MY FIRST CYCLE OF M1T GOING ON MY 2ND WEEK, HOW LONG DID U DO YOUR CYCLE FOR? AND IF I ONLY TAKE NOLVE AFTER WITH NOTHING ELSE WILL IT BE ENOUGH TO RECOVER? THANKS BEN

You should really start your own thread on this oe but yeah t a minimum nolva at the end will do, clomid and nolva would be ideal in helping you kep the gains ad restre our natural test levels tough. All up to you, but itl be more beneficial with both.

My cycle was for 4 weeks, M1T up to 15mg ED inc 4AD with that. loved being on it and did have good results but like I said lost it ALL and a bit more from NOT doing PCT. This was around 2 yrs ago.

Also, regarding it being a REAL AAS. It is not as far as I know, it is a prohormone and does need to be converted in order to be used as a steroid hormone in the body. Although it is the strongest of the Prohormones and also the one with the most sides.

Thanks so far, the one oppinion on no lack of libido does help but could do with some more.

Thanks

[dazbo]

P.S. DO NOT GO OVER 4 WEEKS! Bad for you big style!

[dazbo]

Just another question to add. Ive noticed theres a lot of info on doing 2weeks on and 2weeks off. Ive thought about this before because most of the gains are in the first two weeks but always assumed that its not such a good idea to go for such short periods due to blood levels being all over the place??

What are your oppinions on this ? 2 on2 off or 4on 4 off ?
thanks

[dazbo]

Oy yeah and another thing. Would I be OK to do t3/clen OR ECA at the same time ? I want to gain a little muscle but burn the fat a lot too. Was hoping the ECA might help with the lethargy too. Def going to use tribulus to help there as well.

thanks

[benmooreben]

You should really start your own thread on this oe but yeah t a minimum nolva at the end will do, clomid and nolva would be ideal in helping you kep the gains ad restre our natural test levels tough. All up to you, but itl be more beneficial with both.

My cycle was for 4 weeks, M1T up to 15mg ED inc 4AD with that. loved being on it and did have good results but like I said lost it ALL and a bit more from NOT doing PCT. This was around 2 yrs ago.

Also, regarding it being a REAL AAS. It is not as far as I know, it is a prohormone and does need to be converted in order to be used as a steroid hormone in the body. Although it is the strongest of the Prohormones and also the one with the most sides.

Thanks so far, the one oppinion on no lack of libido does help but could do with some more.

Thanks

i try to start threads but nobody answers. dont know why?

[benmooreben]

and 1 more thing , why did u lose your gains, was it that u quit working out or it just went away even tho u kept lifting? i dont understand

[benmooreben]

and 1 more thing , why did u lose your gains, was it that u quit working out or it just went away even tho u kept lifting? i dont understand

[Swifto]

I'd stay away from M1T. Its a very harsh ProHormone to be taking for a start. Other than that, it has many sides and the gains arnt of much quality/keepable. Its a very hypatoxic compound also. It hasnt been around long so the long term side effects of its use arnt fully known. Other AS would be better suited and a wiser idea IMHO.

If you want an all oral cycle? Run Tbol for 50mg/ED for 8 weeks, followed by standard PCT. Or Var at 70mg/ED for the same duration.

[benmooreben]

I'd stay away from M1T. Its a very harsh ProHormone to be taking for a start. Other than that, it has many sides and the gains arnt of much quality/keepable. Its a very hypatoxic compound also. It hasnt been around long so the long term side effects of its use arnt fully known. Other AS would be better suited and a wiser idea IMHO.

If you want an all oral cycle? Run Tbol for 50mg/ED for 8 weeks, followed by standard PCT. Or Var at 70mg/ED for the same duration.

heard this b4 swifto its not gonna stop no one from taking it. i havnt had any sides yet but im only doing 8 - 12 mg a day ima bump it up and see wat happens

[Ntpadude]

M1T is like methyl-boldendone almost. The results are similar. 1-test works very much like EQ. Neither are terribly strong in regards to shutting you down, although many people find EQ takes almost 8 to 9 weeks to get significant results, well its not safe to take methyl based steroids for more then 4 weeks at a time although you dont get the slow ramp up effect of the EQ injections.

To be honest, M1T is ideal as a kickstart to an EQ cycle although to kickstart other steroids doesnt always seem to jive together. To me, EQ takes so much time and volume of injections to get anything out of it, why not take something more effective faster with less like trenbalone.

[thegodfather]

You should really start your own thread on this oe but yeah t a minimum nolva at the end will do, clomid and nolva would be ideal in helping you kep the gains ad restre our natural test levels tough. All up to you, but itl be more beneficial with both.

My cycle was for 4 weeks, M1T up to 15mg ED inc 4AD with that. loved being on it and did have good results but like I said lost it ALL and a bit more from NOT doing PCT. This was around 2 yrs ago.

Also, regarding it being a REAL AAS. It is not as far as I know, it is a prohormone and does need to be converted in order to be used as a steroid hormone in the body. Although it is the strongest of the Prohormones and also the one with the most sides.

Thanks so far, the one oppinion on no lack of libido does help but could do with some more.

Thanks

Bro that is incorrect. It was marketed as a pro-hormone. However, it is a designer steroid. Meaning you are ingesting an already in tact hormone. The hormone is 1-Testosterone , an improvement on the hormone Testosterone. 1-Testosterone is then methylated to be more bio-availble, its what keeps the hormone from being destroyed by your body once ingested. It undergoes NO conversion once ingested. But to answer your above question. About a year ago I took M1T with no 4AD or anything, I got some great results, and it actually INCREASED my libido significantly. Be advised though, that is my personal experience using it, and as with all things steroid related, you may be prone to different side effects than myself. Good luck, Id advise you to just hop on the real thing and leave that shit alone...

[Milky87]

Also, regarding it being a REAL AAS. It is not as far as I know, it is a prohormone and does need to be converted in order to be used as a steroid hormone in the body. Although it is the strongest of the Prohormones and also the one with the most sides.

It doesnt require conversion and its based on steran: this makes it a steroid , not a prohormone

[dazbo]

hi

since that post regarding it being a real steroid , Ive looked into it more and found out i guess it is! My wrong.

Anyway, swifto. I know its hepatoxic, harsh and has sides, but I dont agree with it doesnt work and Im sure plenty think the same. Personally, Ive done 2 injectable cycles injecting EOD so injecting is not the problem. Its money and time. I know I cant get back to what I was or where I want to be by summer. Long story but I had to have time off the gym and had trouble getting back to it due to injury.

I cant afford another cycle, they expensive to start with then my source costs a fortune too, and cant find another and wont buy off the net.

Plus I cant get hold of Tbol although have tried very hard as I would love to use that. Var I have used but you would not beleive the price!! So cant afford that.

So more AAS out of the question. I have lots of M1T left of which I had good results before. not suffered any sides from it at the correct dose so INO theres no reason, other than you saying not to, to not use it.

So, libido shouldnt be a prob I take it. But, what about cycle length then ? 2 or 4 weeks ??

thanks

darren


P.S. do not PM me with sources

[Almost There]

I have used it for 4 weeks at 20mg/ED. (split the dosage). I had absolutely no problem with libido at all while taking it. Use it for 4 weeks to get the best results....

[dazbo]

thats a pretty high dose for 4 wks IMO. Anyone else think so ?? I think I tried using that much but had to stop due to kidney pains!

Thanks though for that

[Swifto]

thats a pretty high dose for 4 wks IMO. Anyone else think so ?? I think I tried using that much but had to stop due to kidney pains!

Thanks though for that

Any sort of pain, Chest, Liver, Kidney, Stomach? Go to the doctor and get bloodwork done immediately IMHO.

[dazbo]

swifto it was nearly two yrs ago i did it. And no it was just kidney pain. A year ago a did a real AAS cycle - well Ive done two, and after each one Ive had bloodwork and the doctor was very impressed and commented on me living a healthy lifestyle.

Have you ever done M1T and/or personally had problems with it ??

Also, regarding it being new and not long term tested. Well, if it is a testosterone that doesn't need converting in the body, surely its no different to our own testosterone or even any other injectable/oral AAS we use with respect to long term effects ?

thanks again

[Swifto]

swifto it was nearly two yrs ago i did it. And no it was just kidney pain. A year ago a did a real AAS cycle - well Ive done two, and after each one Ive had bloodwork and the doctor was very impressed and commented on me living a healthy lifestyle.

Have you ever done M1T and/or personally had problems with it ??

Also, regarding it being new and not long term tested. Well, if it is a testosterone that doesn't need converting in the body, surely its no different to our own testosterone or even any other injectable/oral AAS we use with respect to long term effects ?

thanks again

I have never done M1T, I also wont for the reasons I've stated. I may try it in 10-15 years time when there is more known about the compound. The majority of the AS I've conducted research on has been around for many years. So, in my view their fairly safe to run, with the correct bloodwork done at the corect time. I've only done one cycle, but I used compounds that have been arpund for 50+years. Tbol/Test Enan (Human Grade).

[Almost There]

thats a pretty high dose for 4 wks IMO. Anyone else think so ?? I think I tried using that much but had to stop due to kidney pains!

Thanks though for that

Its really not that high. I got awesome results with it. I drank a lot of water and cranberry juice, and took plenty of milk thistle with it. Didn't have any kidney pain at all. Then again, dont start the dose that high if you can get results from less. IMO though, 20mg/ED is the magic number.

[dazbo]

OK thanks, I wouldnt start that high anyway