First cycle...

[incubusflyguy]

How's it going fellas? I've been researching this (ESPECIALLY ON THIS SITE) and am ready to take the leap to steroids . I eat about 3400 calories a day. 1500 are carbs, 500 fat, 1000 protien, and the rest is variable diet fibers, etc.
deca dura 1-3 vials a week
sustanon 250mg 1-2 amps a week
Dianabol 5-10 tabs/day
H.C.G. 10th and 11th week 1 amp/week

the variables there are that the cycle is supposed to peak between the 4-6 weeks and tapers off back to original intake. 23 years old... follow this workout
MONDAY-chest/back
Incline Barbell Bench-4x8-10
Flat Dumbbell Fly-3x10
Dumbbell Pullover-3x10
Chin Ups-4x8-10
Barbell Row-3x10
Stiff-Leg Dead Lift-3x10

TUESDAY-abs/traps
Weighted Sit Ups-4x20
Ab Twists-4x20
Ab Crunches-4x20
Dumbbell Shrugs-4x8-10
Front Barbell Shrugs-3x10
Rear Barbell Shrugs-3x10

WEDNESDAY-legs/shoulders
Leg Extensions-3x15warmup
Squat-4x8-10
Lying or Seated Leg Curl-3x15
Military Press-4x8-10
Side Lateral Raise-3x10
Upright Row-3x10

THURSDAY-calves/abs/forearms
Barbell Calf Raise-3x50
Dumbbell Farmers Walk-2x50yards
Hanging Leg Raise-3x20
Lying Leg Raise-3x20
Front Wrist Curl-3x20
Reverse Wrist Curl-3x20

FRIDAY-biceps/triceps
Barbell Curl-4x8-10
Alternating Dumbbell Curl-3x10
Concentration Curl-3x10
Close Grip Bench-4x8-10
Dips-3x10
One Arm Overhead Dumbbell Extension-3x10

SATURDAY-abs
Bodyweight Sit Ups-4x20
Bicycle Crunches-4x20

Just for instance, I can only bench 130. I am 6'1" and 140 pounds. WET. I know it is advised against steroids, but bros, I have tried EVERYTHING. I'm sick and tired of being a little puny ass. The main problem is at work b/c I work as an industrial welder. They see the little guy as the person they DON'T want on their crew due to the fact he can't wrestle a 300 pound beam into position and hold it. It hasn't cost me my job, but has cost me being called to more work. I would appreciate ANY AND ALL input on this before I start. I don't want to start this cylcle if you guys believe it's not a good idea or too overboard/extreme. I've watched this website for months, and their is a wealth of knowledge here. I have NOT bought the cycle yet, I'm still running checks on the site (500 bucks, wouldn't you?). Thank you all for the input, suggestions, or encouragement.

[Booz]

what are your stats mate??

[stocky121]

no steroid 's for you my friend get your diet sorted and in a couple of year's then you will be ready for a cycle

also you said you reaserched that's a shit first cycle IMO

[stocky121]

what are your stats mate??

6,1 140 pound's wet

thats what he said

[incubusflyguy]

7 and a half inch bicep 34 inch waist but it's only bones...29" at shoulder...calf is 6 and a half inches...chest is around 27 inches...1.5% body fat

[incubusflyguy]

that's the problem...I keep getting conflicting information. My diet is superb. I have a blood pressure of 110/50. Resting pulse of 48bpm. cholesterol was AROUND 98. I'm in superb health, just have a sky high metabolism...since I was a kid.

[stocky121]

that's the problem...I keep getting conflicting information. My diet is superb. I have a blood pressure of 110/50. Resting pulse of 48bpm. cholesterol was AROUND 98. I'm in superb health, just have a sky high metabolism...since I was a kid.

more food my man what dose your diet look like break it down for me

[farrebarre]

thats a sucky first cycle, do some more research

[incubusflyguy]

6 chicken breasts foreman grilled cooked... a bag of stir fry vegetables, 1 cup of pasta- no sauce. 4 Cans a day of v8. 2 6 ounce bottles of boost. Half a pack of deli turkey (8 ounces I believe). 1 can of tuna. Half a stack of the long bag of ritz crackers, 12 ounce steak a day (low quality steak, can't afford angus steak everyday)

[Booz]

6,1 140 pound's wet

thats what he said

did not get that far mate!!
roids are not for you at the moment my friend,you prolly do not want to hear that but you need to get a good base of muscle before you even think about adding these things!6'1 and 140,nowhere near enuff of a base to work with,you should with the right diet be able to get upto 180 at least,then add gear into the equation!

[Booz]

talkin about food i need some!!

[Swifto]

talkin about food i need some!!

I've just had a load of poached eggs with smoked salmon on toast! Lovely!

All you need is food at this point. IMHO you could gain a lot more naturally. Set yourself a goal of say, 180lbs under 10%, then think about cycling. Get yourself a good weigh gainer/creatine and eat 6-7 small/medium meals per day.

Then, you MIGHT look like Booz....?

[incubusflyguy]

Not to be rude, you guys aren't getting this.... THIS IS THE BIGGEST I'VE BEEN IN MY LIFE. And I'm about to turn 24. I'm a freak of nature. I quit growing 5 years ago. I haven't changed pant sizes in 4. I'm starting steriods , do you have any suggestions?

[stocky121]

Not to be rude, you guys aren't getting this.... THIS IS THE BIGGEST I'VE BEEN IN MY LIFE. And I'm about to turn 24. I'm a freak of nature. I quit growing 5 years ago. I haven't changed pant sizes in 4. I'm starting steriods, do you have any suggestions?

yes i have one DONT DO STERIOD 'S

[incubusflyguy]

Since it seems obvious from people more knowledgable than me, what would you guys recommend if you were in my shoes and want to gain 45-50 pounds? What would be your diet, workout reg, etc? I finally bought a pedometer and have worn it to work the last two nights...night before last I walked (and climbed staris) to the distance of 9.2 miles. Last night I walked 3.5. I already have a sky high metabolism and if I don't eat more than 2500 calories, I lose weight at the rate of 1lb/day. Help!!

[boosted_body]

Sustanon is not the best for a first time user. Personally I would go with a Test E. Maybe run 400-500mg for 8-10 weeks just to see how your body reacts to it. Dont forget about your PCT. GL!

[magic32]

No, no, no You don’t need roids.
Firstly, I see you conveniently left out an age. Seven inch biceps, hmmm?
Secondly, you certainly need to develop, as stated above, a better base. Get yourself some Creatine and start munching protein bars and peanut butter.

No, no, no, I’m not done yet not with the Meatball.
-Thunderlips

Lastly while working up another say up to 25-30lbs, you’ll have time to do more research. So retool that cycle and consider a Test E only (novice cycle), with proper PCT.

M.

[incubusflyguy]

Not to be rude, you guys aren't getting this.... THIS IS THE BIGGEST I'VE BEEN IN MY LIFE. And I'm about to turn 24. I'm a freak of nature. I quit growing 5 years ago. I haven't changed pant sizes in 4. I'm starting steriods, do you have any suggestions?

That would make me 23. Still reading this thread and taking notes....

[axemurderer187]

your workout needs alotta help too in my opinion.

I believe in seperating the push and pull workouts on different days to get peak tearing actions. In other words I wouldn't do chest and back on the same day. Nor would I do bi and tri's on the same.

Legs should have a day all to itself.

Why u stacking on your first cycle, you don't need too.. Your receptors are totally fresh.

[vitor]

If you cant gain any weight, even though your diet and training are spot on, try this:
test e-600mgs ew 1-10
primo-1gram ew 1-10
nolva-20mgs ed 1-10

pct:
clomid-100-50mgs ed(from week 10 until you have recovered)
Arimidex -0.5 ed 10-13
tribulus-1-2gram ed 2weeks on/off

Remember to eat like a horse, on an off cycle. Make sure you get enough rest between workouts also, and stick to basic movments.

[DHew]

You have no muscle for the gear to work with. Try a "bulking" lift setup. Heavy lifting. moderate reps. Maybe some 5x5 or 4x6 of powerlifts. Look into it more though. Just a suggestions.

[godkilla]

you need good food and good training, NOT GEAR!

[squatdaddy]

At this point in the game I would be less concerned about your diet being spot on (probably an unpopular opinion) and more worried about just consuming calories... based on your medical profile and obvious metabolism, the extra fat/carbs in your diet might be what you need... granted I would relook at the claim of a 1.5% bodyfat... that just smells fishy to me, but none the less... eat, eat like a horse... go to Wendy's, Burger King, whatever and consume... sounds like your body is already more than efficient at burning the calories
as far as training I would follow a hard gainers type of program... look up Stewart McFerson or others for some good solid hard gainer philosophy... basically it will boil down to infrequent low reps/high poundages a la Mike Mentzer type training...
More energy you waste, the more you hyper metabolosim will canibolize lean tissue... this you don't want

[Dexta]

1.5 % bf and a 34 inch waist? is that even possible at 140, 6.1'