Doing a cutter, what to add? anavar,tbol or winny?

**Clichy** · 02-19-2006, 08:05 AM

8weeks during cutting
stacked with testo prop 75mg ed+proviron 50mg ed.

What would you choose to add to the stack?

Anavar 60mg ed
Turinabol 60mg ed
Winstrol 75-100mg ed

**stocky121** · 02-19-2006, 08:07 AM

if you can afford it i would pick var

**Swifto** · 02-19-2006, 08:11 AM

I agree.

Var.

**sp9** · 02-19-2006, 08:12 AM

Only ever used var out of those 3. I loved it. No side effects for me at 60mg a day for 14weeks. Of course my cholesterol was thrown for a loop, and keep an eye on it esp if heart prob run in your family.

**DEVLDOG** · 02-19-2006, 08:33 AM

Diet Is More Important Then Any Compound You Choose

**sp9** · 02-19-2006, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

Diet Is More Important Then Any Compound You Choose

True Dat!

**DEVLDOG** · 02-19-2006, 08:39 AM

most people fail to realize that their main purpose of gear while cutting is to keep the body out of a catabolic state and keep as much muscle as possable while dropping bf....just about any compound can do this..thats why diet,training and recovery are so important while "cutting"....I dont even like the word cutting.

**Clichy** · 02-19-2006, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

most people fail to realize that their main purpose of gear while cutting is to keep the body out of a catabolic state and keep as much muscle as possable while dropping bf....just about any compound can do this..thats why diet,training and recovery are so important while "cutting"....I dont even like the word cutting.

Okey smartass.

i have been cutting since december and have a good diet right now, but as everybody knows the last pounds are hard to get down and to achieve it good i have to use some aas to minimize the muscle loss.

**stocky121** · 02-19-2006, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

Okey smartass.

i have been cutting since december and have a good diet right now, but as everybody knows the last pounds are hard to get down and to achieve it good i have to use some aas to minimize the muscle loss.

there's know need for that mate he was just trying to explain that diet and cardio is more important than gear is

**Igifuno** · 02-19-2006, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

Okey smartass.

i have been cutting since december and have a good diet right now, but as everybody knows the last pounds are hard to get down and to achieve it good i have to use some aas to minimize the muscle loss.

How is he being a smart ass? Check yourself, bro - you ran the thread asking advice... he's advising you to be conciensious of your diet moreso than the compound you choose. Don't post threads if you're not prepared to get people's opinions. DD's a vet as well - which means his advice should be taken seriously.

**Pinnacle** · 02-19-2006, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

Winstrol 75-100mg ed

No need to get like that with DD.He was merely making a point,and a good one at that

To answer your question.I'd run winny at 100-200 mgs ED...

~Pinnacle~

**sp9** · 02-19-2006, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

Okey smartass.

i have been cutting since december and have a good diet right now, but as everybody knows the last pounds are hard to get down and to achieve it good i have to use some aas to minimize the muscle loss.

Newbie (to the board) - see that title vet next to his name. That was earned for a reason. He is a well respected person and the staff here thought highly enough of him to earn that title for his knowledge.

Stop the name calling.

**Clichy** · 02-19-2006, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by sp9

Newbie (to the board) - see that title vet next to his name. That was earned for a reason. He is a well respected person and the staff here thought highly enough of him to earn that title for his knowledge.

Stop the name calling.

So? because im new to this board doesent mean that im a newbiie to bodybuiling...

BTW: Im a veteran at many scandinavian board.

**sp9** · 02-19-2006, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

So? because im new to this board doesent mean that im a newbiie to bodybuiling...

BTW: Im a veteran at many scandinavian board.

That was exactly my point in making the note - you were new to the board, maybe not to Steroids or body building.

I can't speak for your other board, but we try to respect each other here and not name call, especially to staff or vets.

Welcome by the way, I look forward to you sharing your knowledge.

**Igifuno** · 02-19-2006, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

8weeks during cutting
stacked with testo prop 75mg ed+proviron 50mg ed.

What would you choose to add to the stack?

Anavar 60mg ed
Turinabol 60mg ed
Winstrol 75-100mg ed

newbie or not - give me the addy of the Scandinavian board (that you're a vet of) and let me go on and start calling your respected members sh*t and see what kind of responses i get........ welcome to AR.

**ruffrydadd** · 02-19-2006, 09:55 AM

Why is everyone saying Var is such an effective cutting supp. when even the AR steroid effectiveness chart only rates it 2 stars out of 5 for weight/water loss? Maybe it is good for cutting, but if it is shouldn't the steroid effectiveness chart be updated?

**stocky121** · 02-19-2006, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by ruffrydadd

Why is everyone saying Var is such an effective cutting supp. when even the AR steroid effectiveness chart only rates it 2 stars out of 5 for weight/water loss? Maybe it is good for cutting, but if it is shouldn't the steroid effectiveness chart be updated?

should have been year's ago

i

**diezell** · 02-19-2006, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

So? because im new to this board doesent mean that im a newbiie to bodybuiling...

BTW: Im a veteran at many scandinavian board.

If youre a vet on another board, shouldnt you know this stuff?

**sp9** · 02-19-2006, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by ruffrydadd

Why is everyone saying Var is such an effective cutting supp. when even the AR steroid effectiveness chart only rates it 2 stars out of 5 for weight/water loss? Maybe it is good for cutting, but if it is shouldn't the steroid effectiveness chart be updated?

I just tried a var only cycle last fall - 3 prior cycles were test, or dbol /test/eq.

Anavar was amazing at 60mg a day for me. I saw body fat shed, strenght go up, and better vascularity that running EQ at either 400 or 600 mg for 15 weeks.

Many people have that exp to. I will never run it alone again, will add at least test, but I wanted to see how I reacted to it with nothing else. It did supress my natural test hard enough to need pct for the dose and length of time I was doing.

The profiles are a good reference but nothing beats experience with your own genetic makeup.

**MAXIMA5** · 02-19-2006, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by ruffrydadd

Why is everyone saying Var is such an effective cutting supp. when even the AR steroid effectiveness chart only rates it 2 stars out of 5 for weight/water loss? Maybe it is good for cutting, but if it is shouldn't the steroid effectiveness chart be updated?

It's good for maintaining the muscle and strength you should have already established either naturally, or with a bulking cycle. There are some studies that suggest it reduces midsection fat, but it's primary purpose is to keep the muscle and strength you have while you're reducing body fat through diet/cardio/etc...

**DEVLDOG** · 02-19-2006, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Clichy

Okey smartass.

i have been cutting since december and have a good diet right now, but as everybody knows the last pounds are hard to get down and to achieve it good i have to use some aas to minimize the muscle loss.

heres some advice for you ......GO FUUCK YOURSELF

Originally Posted by diezell

If youre a vet on another board, shouldnt you know this stuff?

EXACTLY!!

**Swifto** · 02-19-2006, 11:13 AM

As above. It doesnt matter what compounds are run, their purely as a small aid. The main 2 aspects of cutting are diet/cardio. Without these being done properly, your only wasting money on AS if you think these copounds will do it for you.

**Pinnacle** · 02-19-2006, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

heres some advice for you ......GO FUUCK YOURSELF

!!

BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA....I knew that was coming

**BlInDsIdE** · 02-19-2006, 11:48 AM

lol...

**Milky87** · 02-20-2006, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

heres some advice for you ......GO FUUCK YOURSELF

>LOL! Too funny

**Clichy** · 02-20-2006, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

heres some advice for you ......GO FUUCK YOURSELF

EXACTLY!!

Very mature, like a five year old child.
I just said the truth so whats the problem if i got my diet checked allready.
You just playing it smart and saying the most newbiie words ever, im not a newbiie i KNOW food and training as so for aas but i posted this to get some advice on the board but hell no, YOU did not help me at all. you just assumed i was a ****head that put in medicin i body for fun.

Go and check your EGO mate, because you have to come down a sec and smell the fresh coffe.