Lean bulker, Prop+npp.

**Gra** · 02-19-2006, 12:15 PM

So this is what I were thinking to do for my next cycle.

Week 1-8 75mg prop ed.
Week 1-8 50mg npp ed.

B-6 200mg ed during the cycle, nolva on hand.

Starting pct(Clomid and nolva) 3 days after last shot.

Is it ok to do npp for only 8 weeks? And start pct 3 days after npp? or should I quit the npp earlier than the prop? Couldn`t find this info on npp.

Tear it appart guys..

**hosam4ever** · 02-19-2006, 01:34 PM

i think 10 weeks is better than 8 & u can continue ur prop untill 3 days before pct

**Gra** · 02-19-2006, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by hosam4ever

i think 10 weeks is better than 8 & u can continue ur prop untill 3 days before pct

I know about the prop, but is it the same with the npp?

**hosam4ever** · 02-19-2006, 02:24 PM

what do u mean by the same

**Gra** · 02-19-2006, 02:53 PM

The npp has a phenylpropionate ester attached to it wich is longer than the propionate ester. So my guess would be that I would have to wait a few more days before starting pct?

**Gra** · 02-19-2006, 04:04 PM

Bump....

**Gra** · 02-19-2006, 11:31 PM

So no one knows this huh?

**Milky87** · 02-20-2006, 01:23 AM

Logic tells me that the pheynylpropanoate ester would require longer, but most profiles I have read listing its active life say that its the same as propanoate

**Xprime** · 03-01-2006, 04:05 AM

Then can we start Pct three days after last shoot of NPP?

Gra, i would personally begin the pct 5days after my last npp shoot.
If u read the profile of NPP it says it can be shoot twice a week(Monday and thursday).

**Gra** · 03-01-2006, 06:29 AM

I know that, but since I`m shooting prop ed I might aswell shoot npp ed.

**hosam4ever** · 03-01-2006, 08:26 AM

u can extend prop for one more week 2 be sure of pct start time

**Stackertoo** · 03-01-2006, 10:25 AM

As long as the half-lives are for both Nolva and Clomid, if you start early, you will just get up to steady levels by the time the juice clears the body.
I actually start mine a few days before cycle end to have it at full strength (or close to it) when I become clean.
I stop HCG 7-5 before cycle end and a couple of days later, PCT drugs begin.
This is all with short-acting esters like Prop and Tren A. (NPP should not differ much)
I have honed this to a science trough trial and error. But maybe it only works for me and not anyone else.