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    Question Do you consider upping your doses based on ester?

    Wondering this. I admit I was not really aware of the difference until lately.

    So if I take 500mg of test e I am only really getting about 350mg of test, because the rest is ester (about 70mg per 100mg injected is actual testosterone )

    Prop is like 86 mg per 100mg injected.

    Suspension is 100mg per 100mg injected.

    So when I do test e, and say it is 300mg per ml and I want 600 mg of test, if I shoot 2ml a week, I am only really getting about 420mg?

    Should I bump the injection volume up to just under 3ml per week to compensate. Why only put in 2ml and get 420mg of test when I want 600mg?

    Does any one adjust based on ester, kinda seems like a big deal when you are talking long esters.

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    No need to adjust for the ester. Your body doesnt give a shit if it is receiving nice rounded numbers like 500mg or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    No need to adjust for the ester. Your body doesnt give a shit if it is receiving nice rounded numbers like 500mg or not.
    Really? But the difference between thinking you are doing 500mg of test and actually only 350mg seems like a big deal? Thanks for your input.

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    Damn bro, we must be mentally connected or sumthing. Amazing that we both posted the same question.....

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    I kind of base everything on the test enanthate ester. Since that is the first one that I used, I kind of set the bar at that. If I am doing prop., I may do a little bit less and suspension definitely less. But when I think of 600 mg. of test, I think of it as 600 mg. test enanthate. Does that make sense?

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    Sure. I wonder when they do these studies where they say the administered 600mg of test cyp a week, if they actually put 600mg of test in the people's body or 420mg + the ester. Kinda throws me for a loop. That has got to be why people prefer shorter esters who want a higher blood concentration of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by velvetlion
    I kind of base everything on the test enanthate ester. Since that is the first one that I used, I kind of set the bar at that. If I am doing prop., I may do a little bit less and suspension definitely less. But when I think of 600 mg. of test, I think of it as 600 mg. test enanthate. Does that make sense?
    no way, 100 mg test enanthate is 72 mg of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    no way, 100 mg test enanthate is 72 mg of test.

    Yeah, I realise that. But when I started I based my first cycle on 400 mg. test enanthate . My second cycle included 600 mg. of test enanthate. So when I set my doses, I base them on the results that I received from that.

    For example: If I decided that I wanted to move my test up for my next cycle from 1000 to 1200mg./week, those doses would be based on me using test enanthate. You are correct test e is only 72mg. of test. So if I decided that I was using test suspension instead, I would probably only do 1000 mg. because I would round it up from the 866mg. of test in the test enanthate.

    I am just saying that since test e was the first thing that I used, I base all other doses to some extent off what they would be accordingly with test e.

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    me too

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