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    OK, coming into my 3rd week of cyp and just had the realization that I'm shorting myself because of the ester weight. If I am dosing myself with 500 mg/wk of cyp, 200mg/ml, that equals 2 weekly shots of 1.25 (rounded up to 1.3) ml. Well if you take into account the ester weight of cyp being roughly 30mg/100mg cyp, I'm only getting 350 mg/wk of test. I'm sure I need to bump it up to 750 mg cyp/wk thusly giving myself 525 mg/wk test. Is this correct? (I know it is, just checking with the experts). Also, for ease of measuring, I would like to go with 800mg/wk cyp giving myself 560mg/wk test, which equates to 2 shots of 2ml each EW.

    Also is it appropriate to shoot Monday and Thursday or is E3D a better schedule even though it's tougher to keep track of?

    One more thing, since I started off kinda short, should I or can I extend my 12 weeks into 14?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Head
    OK, coming into my 3rd week of cyp and just had the realization that I'm shorting myself because of the ester weight. If I am dosing myself with 500 mg/wk of cyp, 200mg/ml, that equals 2 weekly shots of 1.25 (rounded up to 1.3) ml. Well if you take into account the ester weight of cyp being roughly 30mg/100mg cyp, I'm only getting 350 mg/wk of test. I'm sure I need to bump it up to 750 mg cyp/wk thusly giving myself 525 mg/wk test. Is this correct? (I know it is, just checking with the experts). Also, for ease up measuring, I would like to go with 800mg/wk cyp giving myself 560mg/wk test, which equates to 2 shots of 2ml each EW.

    Also is it appropriate to shoot Monday and Thursday or is E3D a better schedule even though it's tougher to keep track of?
    I just asked kind of the same question in another thread. I have never adjusted for ester but am thinking about it now. Also thinking about buying prop going forward.

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    100 mg cyp test = 70 mg test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    100 mg cyp test = 70 mg test.
    I think that is what he was saying, that the ester takes up 30mgs of space out of the 100mg, leaving only 70 actual mg of test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sp9
    I think that is what he was saying, that the ester takes up 30mgs of space out of the 100mg, leaving only 70 actual mg of test.
    Yep.....

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    bump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Head
    OK, coming into my 3rd week of cyp and just had the realization that I'm shorting myself because of the ester weight. If I am dosing myself with 500 mg/wk of cyp, 200mg/ml, that equals 2 weekly shots of 1.25 (rounded up to 1.3) ml. Well if you take into account the ester weight of cyp being roughly 30mg/100mg cyp, I'm only getting 350 mg/wk of test. I'm sure I need to bump it up to 750 mg cyp/wk thusly giving myself 525 mg/wk test. Is this correct? (I know it is, just checking with the experts). Also, for ease of measuring, I would like to go with 800mg/wk cyp giving myself 560mg/wk test, which equates to 2 shots of 2ml each EW.

    Also is it appropriate to shoot Monday and Thursday or is E3D a better schedule even though it's tougher to keep track of?

    One more thing, since I started off kinda short, should I or can I extend my 12 weeks into 14?
    Most importantly is what ester have you used before? If you used 500mg of prop then switching to 500mg of cyp would mean your actually using a slightly lower dose than before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    Most importantly is what ester have you used before? If you used 500mg of prop then switching to 500mg of cyp would mean your actually using a slightly lower dose than before.
    None, this is my first foray into exogenious test.

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    Ok so I upped it to 2cc's per injection of cyp 200mg/ml. That's 280mg test 2x week. Seems like a lot of liquid for my quad but we'll see tomorrow how stiff I feel. This seems to be the appropriate course so that I am getting my 'beginner' dose of 500 mg test a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Head
    None, this is my first foray into exogenious test.
    Then dont worry about it, 500mg of test cyp a week is enough to make great gains on a first cycle, even if it doesnt actually work out at 500mg of test because of the cyp ester.
    Dont overcomplicate things, at this stage you will grow easily later on when growth becomes more diificult then start looking into more advanced, scientific ways off cycling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
    100 mg cyp test = 70 mg test.
    Correct.

    I believe Enan is 72mg/100mg and Test Prop is 82mg/100mg. Its not alot but its worth taking into account IMHO. This is why its good to have gear thats overdosed slightly IMHO, but not too overdosed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Correct.

    I believe Enan is 72mg/100mg and Test Prop is 82mg/100mg. Its not alot but its worth taking into account IMHO. This is why its good to have gear thats overdosed slightly IMHO, but not too overdosed.
    I'm not counting on any overdosed gear from my pharmacy. I have upped my dosage to accomodate the ester but now, were the 1st 2 weeks a waste since I only really got about 350mg test? Should I plan to extend my 12 weeks to 14?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Head
    I'm not counting on any overdosed gear from my pharmacy. I have upped my dosage to accomodate the ester but now, were the 1st 2 weeks a waste since I only really got about 350mg test? Should I plan to extend my 12 weeks to 14?
    I'm a late starter, so I'd advise to go for 14 weeks, yes.

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    Thanks, I have enough test to finish the cycle out to 14 so it's all good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Head
    Thanks, I have enough test to finish the cycle out to 14 so it's all good.
    You may want to incorperate some HCG if you go over 14 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    You may want to incorperate some HCG if you go over 14 weeks.
    Would you mind outlining a proper HCG protocol Swifto?

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