all year round cycling

**BITTAPART2** · 02-20-2006, 06:46 AM

I alwyas read threads about gains coming to a halt after a certain point of a cycle, I know this does happen there is no denying it but my thought is that they will not slow as much as someone who is natural all year round will they???? the subject w/ the gear will probably be able to gain all year as well, not have anymore growth spurts i realize this but still be able to grow none the less. how do pros stay on most of the year and continue to grow??? switching compounds? cruising? I know it is a bad idea to do this, if you dont earn your living by your physique then why do it at all but for shits and giggles here how do pros continue to gain?

**BOBBY D** · 02-20-2006, 07:02 AM

on juice all year around wont let u gain & gain. if that was the case u would be able to gains 20lbs of muscle every year. pro's staying on all year run heavy cycles but then for a long period of time administrate a low dosage of test and/or a milder compound to cruise thru their next cycle. its their job, like u stated above, but it is a stressful & miserable way of living day to day w/ diet, eating, & training, if u ask me, its not fun.. but its the nature...

i dont know how or if they cotinue to grow, cause at one point ur body will come to a stop regardless, but doing what they do (year round) makes them look steadily progressive in their gains... JMO

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 09:51 AM

Ive been on for about....18 months now and I have continued to make progress...you wont see the scale keep increasing but what you will get is muscle quality..im 292..im shooting for 300 but i dont want to be a fat and sloppy 300..like mentioned earlier....whats done is in my case anyway I run high doses for 16-24 weeks and then cruise on test 500mg/week for a month or two then kick it back up..ive been cruising now for about 7 weeks and am getting ready to go balls to the wall for another 4 months or so.it has worked well for me..but just know ive been doing this for over 18yrs,i know my body and what it can and cant handle...im in no way suggesting this is the best idea for everyone but again its what i found that works for me.

**anabolicbruce** · 02-20-2006, 11:38 AM

DevlDog, you a Marine?? Either way; Semper Fidelis!

**marcus300** · 02-20-2006, 11:48 AM

Staying on gear all year round isnt idea, the top pro's have to cycle high dose and low dose year round so they can compete at that level, if your prepered to use it for that lenght of time, the sides are very harsh especailly when you eventually come off, recovery is so hard ive seen many BB struggling with this sides, HRT comes alot sooner than you would want to and you will have to be prepered jab yourself for the rest of your life.

They dont gain all year round its impossible growth comes in short burst's, if it was true they would all be 500lbs+ and still gaining, all they do is increase the dosages with each following cycle which in turn increase's the side effects, which alot dont understand until they stop competeing and come off and then thats when they realise what is been doing, recovery and maintenace are so hard but if your willing to pay the price!! play the game

**anabolicbruce** · 02-20-2006, 11:52 AM

I wonder if it is better to stay on year-around if you are a person who does more than 2 cycles per year?

through my research and experience I wonder if one could cycle, say for ten weeks, then cruise on a trt dose of test and hcg for a few months then cycle again.

Research has shown that low or sub-opimal test levels in men can lead to; Alzhiemers(sp?), cancer, depression, osteopenia, heart disease etc. This has been proven through Cenegenics Institute research. Also, our levels TEND to drop naturally every year after the age 25-30yrs old. So IMO, wouldnt it make more sense to avoid the hormonal health rollercoaster and stay on year-around???

Keep in mind, this is a suggetion for those that cycle more than once a year, and are over 30yrs old.

**Pinnacle** · 02-20-2006, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by anabolicbruce

So IMO, wouldnt it make more sense to avoid the hormonal health rollercoaster and stay on year-around???

.

If you compete,or just a plain madman,then yes....otherwise,for the novice cycler it's foolish.

I've been on for several years now.Like DD said,the gains are slow,but you just have to keep plugging and try new approaches to cycling.

~Pinnacle~

**anabolicbruce** · 02-20-2006, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

If you compete,or just a plain madman,then yes....otherwise,for the novice cycler it's foolish.

I've been on for several years now.Like DD said,the gains are slow,but you just have to keep plugging and try new approaches to cycling.

~Pinnacle~

I agree with you on the novice issue, and although most on this board are novices, they still cycle more than once or twice a year, and many may be close to 30yrs of age as well. I am not trying to send the wrong message, I'm actually trying to present the power of hormones and there effects so people can consider this into their decisions.

For example; What if a 28 yr old male begins cycling twice a year 10-15 weeks per cycle (average from what I see), therefore 'on' for more than half the year. Although not conclusive, from the studies I've read it takes anywhere from 3-8 months for the HPTA to recover from AAS or androgen replacment; wouldnt it be better for this individual to supp testosterone year around, since he may be naturally declining anyway (bloodwork is a MUST, of course), and he plans on cycling in the years to come??

**taiboxa** · 02-20-2006, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

If you compete,or just a plain madman,then yes....otherwise,for the novice cycler it's foolish.

I've been on for several years now.Like DD said,the gains are slow,but you just have to keep plugging and try new approaches to cycling.

~Pinnacle~

and if ur both then u reccommend just high doses year round w/ no cruise?

**goalseeker** · 02-20-2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by anabolicbruce

and he plans on cycling in the years to come??

this is one way where I would see it feasible to do so.. but for how long I couldnt say...

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by anabolicbruce

DevlDog, you a Marine?? Either way; Semper Fidelis!

Hell Yeah bro....Semper Fi

I stay on cause I hate pct, its the worst possable thing to do to your body...why come off,get your hormone levels back to normal and then do it all over again....dont make much sense...theres NO ducumented evidence that staying on indefinately is any worse...or better. for that matter then cycleing.
and recovery shouldnt be an issue if you planned it out right.I said it before..im running this cycle for 5 yrs,ill be 40 and then im done completely with AAS........hopefully by then there will be an alterative

**anabolicbruce** · 02-20-2006, 12:32 PM

Keep in mind, the latest research has shown HCg maintains intratesticular T levels even while on TRT. There have also been cases of men who were misdiagnosed with hypogonadism (low T) and put on TRT (HCg included); they successfully obtained high-normal natural T levels after discontinuing TRT. So in other words, if you 'plan' on cycling for a few years, and take proper precautions (blood work, check ups etc), it may be healthier to keep your levels from dropping to hypogonadic levels, which is inevitable after AAS, rather than just waiting to start juicing again. The trt 'bridge' approach may alleviate these issues along with keeping our sanity (and libido), possibly without creating any permanent HPTA damage. Just some food for thought.

I am def not promoting year-around cycles, I'm just curious myself on what you guys think, along with getting a decent discussion going for our veteran AAS users (a little break from 'can I take Deca by itself?LOL).

**anabolicbruce** · 02-20-2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

Hell Yeah bro....Semper Fi

I stay on cause I hate pct, its the worst possable thing to do to your body...why come off,get your hormone levels back to normal and then do it all over again....dont make much sense...theres NO ducumented evidence that staying on indefinately is any worse...or better. for that matter then cycleing.
and recovery shouldnt be an issue if you planned it out right.I said it before..im running this cycle for 5 yrs,ill be 40 and then im done completely with AAS........hopefully by then there will be an alterative

My bro ships for Iraq this summer (0331), fortunetly and unfortunetly I got out before sh*t hit the fan, but in a second I would grab my M-16 and F**k some Sh*t up over there!!!!

Semper Fi bro

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by anabolicbruce

Keep in mind, the latest research has shown HCg maintains intratesticular T levels even while on TRT. There have also been cases of men who were misdiagnosed with hypogonadism (low T) and put on TRT (HCg included); they successfully obtained high-normal natural T levels after discontinuing TRT. So in other words, if you 'plan' on cycling for a few years, and take proper precautions (blood work, check ups etc), it may be healthier to keep your levels from dropping to hypogonadic levels, which is inevitable after AAS, rather than just waiting to start juicing again. The trt 'bridge' approach may alleviate these issues along with keeping our sanity (and libido), possibly without creating any permanent HPTA damage. Just some food for thought.

I am def not promoting year-around cycles, I'm just curious myself on what you guys think, along with getting a decent discussion going for our veteran AAS users (a little break from 'can I take Deca by itself?LOL).

yeah what he said......

no seriously,this is pretty much my reasoning.PCT is fukkin horrable on your mind and body..why do it just to do it again.over and over and over..nonsense if you ask me

**guns626** · 02-20-2006, 12:46 PM

Interesting post, gents!

**Juicy Sauce** · 02-20-2006, 01:03 PM

imo, its fine if you are not planning on having kids. its not imposible to have kids while on and there is a chance that they will be normal but why risk it.

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Juicy Sauce

imo, its fine if you are not planning on having kids. its not imposible to have kids while on and there is a chance that they will be normal but why risk it.

WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST ON POSTING SHIT THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT....WHERE THE FU CK IS YOUR PROOF...THIS SHIT REALLY PISSES ME OFF.WE NEED TO START BANNING PEOPLE FOR MAKING SHIT UP.

I HAVE 4 KIDS ALL CONCEIVED WHILE ON AND ALL DOING FINE.MY LATEST IS LESS THEN A MONTH OLD AND HEALTHY AS A HORSE.

THERES NO PROOF TO WHAT YOU SAID SO WHY SAY IT?

**Juicy Sauce** · 02-20-2006, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

WHY DO PEOPLE INSIST ON POSTING SHIT THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT....WHERE THE FU CK IS YOUR PROOF...THIS SHIT REALLY PISSES ME OFF.WE NEED TO START BANNING PEOPLE FOR MAKING SHIT UP.

I HAVE 4 KIDS ALL CONCEIVED WHILE ON AND ALL DOING FINE.MY LATEST IS LESS THEN A MONTH OLD AND HEALTHY AS A HORSE.

THERES NO PROOF TO WHAT YOU SAID SO WHY SAY IT?

testosterone is the male sex hormone. if u want to take it and have kids, thats your choice. im not going to take any chances. im not a doctor but it doesnt take a scientist to figure out that it might not be the best idea bro.

**goalseeker** · 02-20-2006, 01:13 PM

Why are you yelling and swearing bro? He said its not impossible to have them...
And I certainly wouldnt try while I was on the juice.....just to be safe...
Everyone on this board has an equal opportunity to post theyre opinions....

**europeman** · 02-20-2006, 01:15 PM

wait.. so it is normal that your kids arent normal if youre juicing???

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

Why are you yelling bro? He said its not impossible to have them...
And I certainly would try while I was on the juice.....just to be safe...

Im not yelling "bro"..my caps were locked.

he is insinuating that it could cause birth defects...this is the shit the media eats up...if he can prove this theory then do so,if not then dont even post this nonsense

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by europeman

wait.. so it is normal that your kids arent normal if youre juicing???

No,if your kids aint normal its your genetics or the heroin addiction you got

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

Why are you yelling and swearing bro? He said its not impossible to have them...
And I certainly wouldnt try while I was on the juice.....just to be safe...
Everyone on this board has an equal opportunity to post theyre opinions....

opinions..fine...that was stated as a matter of fact...not fine

**Juicy Sauce** · 02-20-2006, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by europeman

wait.. so it is normal that your kids arent normal if youre juicing???

dont you think everything you put into your body will have some effect on the out cum of your sperm. I DO. oops caps was stuck on.

and to devldog - this is a discussion board. we discuss things like this here.

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 01:46 PM

WE DISCUSS FACTUAL INFORMATION,YOU ASK AND YOU GET THE FACTS UNLESS YOU STATE YOU WANT OPINIONS.

WHAT WE DONT DO IS SPREAD RUMORS,THERES NO ROOM FOR THAT HERE.

AND TO YOUR LITTLE "CAPS STUCK QUOTE"

**Swifto** · 02-20-2006, 01:58 PM

Imagine you 2 having it out. Ones 292lbs and the other is near 290lbs. I wouldnt want to be around!

**Juicy Sauce** · 02-20-2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

WE DISCUSS FACTUAL INFORMATION,YOU ASK AND YOU GET THE FACTS UNLESS YOU STATE YOU WANT OPINIONS.

WHAT WE DONT DO IS SPREAD RUMORS,THERES NO ROOM FOR THAT HERE.

AND TO YOUR LITTLE "CAPS STUCK QUOTE"

my origional post started with "imo". since you are a dumbas i will tell you what that means. imo = in my opinion.

and about the caps. i see that you cant take a joke. you need to grow up a lot (imo).

**Swifto** · 02-20-2006, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Juicy Sauce

my origional post started with "imo". since you are a dumbas i will tell you what that means. imo = in my opinion.

and about the caps. i see that you cant take a joke. you need to grow up a lot (imo).

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

WE DISCUSS FACTUAL INFORMATION,YOU ASK AND YOU GET THE FACTS UNLEES YOU STATE YOU WANT OPINIONS.

WHAT WE DONT DO IS SPREAD RUMORS,THERES NO ROOM FOR THAT HERE.

AND TO YOUR LITTLE "CAPS STUCK QUOTE" FU CK YOU!

Theres a no flame policy here. So lets keep this a productive/construcive thread.

**marcus300** · 02-20-2006, 02:05 PM

Looks like long term use is no good for keeping the aggression at bay!! LOL

**Booz** · 02-20-2006, 02:07 PM

i ran a 24 week cycle last year and did not see a lot of growth during the latter stages of the cycle,now during this cycle i fathered my 4th child,a beutiful little girl,touch wood she is perfectly fine and healthy!!there is no evidence whatsoever that roids cause any defects in babys!i am just puttin my point of veuw over!!
imo for me bein on for any longer than the standard 12-16 weeks is not for me,anylonger and it is a waste,i am not saying that it is pointless for everybody,people respond to certain ways others do not!
i am goin for marcuses 30 dayers after this year!
last time i looked this was a discussion board and not a boxing ring!

not tryin to offend anyone but lets be nice girls!!

**goalseeker** · 02-20-2006, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

AND TO YOUR LITTLE "CAPS STUCK QUOTE" FU CK YOU!

Now Devldog, dont go flaming the crap out of me, but...c'mon.. your a vet.. please dont use this kinda language...It puts a damper on this boards fine image...you should know that...

**Pinnacle** · 02-20-2006, 02:14 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

and if ur both then u reccommend just high doses year round w/ no cruise?

No....I never said anything of the sort.I was replying to the posters question in regards to staying on year round with cycles in between.So,without having to mention it,it would be quite obvious a low dose cruise would be used in off cycle periods.

LMAO @ marcus' reply

~Pinnacle~

**Pinnacle** · 02-20-2006, 02:18 PM

BTW...Sorry to interupt..but..

Would anyone like a Corona w/ lime?

**goalseeker** · 02-20-2006, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

BTW...Sorry to interupt..but..

Would anyone like a Corona w/ lime?

..lol

god how I miss that taste.. lol

**Swifto** · 02-20-2006, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

BTW...Sorry to interupt..but..

Would anyone like a Corona w/ lime?

You get this round....I'll get the next....

**marcus300** · 02-20-2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

BTW...Sorry to interupt..but..

Would anyone like a Corona w/ lime?

LOL

alot of questions have been answered with the last few post's, about long term use

chill out guys and come and join the 30 day cycle crew

pinn am on my way over, ice please

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by goalseeker

Now Devldog, dont go flaming the crap out of me, but...c'mon.. your a vet.. please dont use this kinda language...It puts a damper on this boards fine image...you should know that...

No,you know what puts a damper on this board is the fact it has been over run with NOVICE AAS users who think they know everything.I dont claim to know everything but what I do know I stand behind 100% WITH FACTUAL INFORMATION.

GS..seeing how my opinions were not directed towards you,id expect the same curtousy

DUMBASS....NAH,NOT ME.....SMARTASS......DEFINATELY!!

**DEVLDOG** · 02-20-2006, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

LOL

alot of questions have been answered with the last few post's, about long term use

chill out guys and come and join the 30 day cycle crew

pinn am on my way over, ice please

30 DAY CYCLE...I DID 52 OF THEM LAST YR ALONE....

**marcus300** · 02-20-2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by DEVLDOG

30 DAY CYCLE...I DID 52 OF THEM LAST YR ALONE....

lol

**goalseeker** · 02-20-2006, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by marcus300

LOL

join the 30 day cycle crew

pinn am on my way over, ice please

...

party at Pinns!!! lol

Thread: all year round cycling

Thread Tools

Search Thread

Rate This Thread

Display

all year round cycling

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

Posting Permissions