Increasing DNP dosage

[SupaDJDiesel]

There is someone who is on Day 9 of his DNP cycle. He's used 450mg thus far, and has experienced no side effects other than a mild increase in heat 3-5 hours after each dose. He is able to lift at full intensity and suffers no shortness of breath. He is wondering if she should up the dosage to 675mg (split 225 x 3). It is in powder form, and was encapsulated by the person in question. He is paranoid and does not wish to reveal his identity .

He figures that 6 days @ 675 will give him about the same results as 10 days @ 450. Please infrom me as to whether his idea is a valid one. I'll be sure to tell him.

[SwoleCat]

He = you.

Why lie about it?

~SC~

[SupaDJDiesel]

I figured my subtle smiley face made that clear. I'm paranoid.

[J0E]

from what i have read my people say keep it consistent through out the cycle.

[goose]

If you have experienced no sides at 450mg,your a lucky guy,why increase? As you will experience great results,to be safe you could make the cycle longer at this dose to compensate.The danger with DNP is if it`s over-dosed,so you think your taking 675mgs but it could be higher,the room for error is very small,as the half-life will give you a death sentence,no place to Escape.DNP is very safe at 200mg,however,the dangers come at the high doses of 500-800mg.


goose4..

[Maetenloch]

I prefer to run it at 200mg for longer - it's more comfortable, safer, and still effective. If you must up the dose, try alternating 400mg on one day and 600 the next day, and see how you feels. As goose4 said, the risks start to really rise when you get above 600mg. I believe the LD50 dose for humans is somewhere between 1000mg and 2000mg.

[inevitable]

i wouldn't increase it... i never go over 450 with dnp... i don't want the risk of death. if u screw up ur insides will burn and may cause u to die. dnp is nothing to fck with.

[SupaDJDiesel]

Thanks for the responses so far. Scared to up it because of potential dangers, but body seems to handle it very well. Sometimes don't even get hot. A trial day is the best idea... maybe.

Not interested in personal pronouns.
Admit nothing.

[diezell]

i wouldnt up it why risk danger with this stuff? is the fat starting to melt off

[Seattle Junk]

Your body temp will keep increasing with higher dosage which is dangerous as you can imagine. 450mgs ed is great for 2 weeks by my experience. Once in the late morn and another one in the late afernoon. I had dimineshing returns after 2 weeks but the same sides. I ran DNP for 3 weeks total.

[SupaDJDiesel]

The fat is coming off but bodyweight is still +13lbs. from the beginning of the cycle, which was 2/13. It is not coming off as expected, or maybe it is but insane water retention is hiding reality. Strangely, there was no heat at all today @450, was actually a bit cold and had to wear a sweatshirt to go outside.

If a certain someone finishes their paper tonight he'll be rewarded with 675 tomorrow as a trial run. Don't worry, he wont.

[SupaDJDiesel]

675mg feels no different. No heat anymore.

[Seattle Junk]

The fat is coming off but bodyweight is still +13lbs. from the beginning of the cycle, which was 2/13. It is not coming off as expected, or maybe it is but insane water retention is hiding reality. Strangely, there was no heat at all today @450, was actually a bit cold and had to wear a sweatshirt to go outside.

If a certain someone finishes their paper tonight he'll be rewarded with 675 tomorrow as a trial run. Don't worry, he wont.

Your weight is the same due to water retention.... You see the final results about a week after you're done.

[SupaDJDiesel]

Your weight is the same due to water retention.... You see the final results about a week after you're done.

But the thing is that my weight is not the same. Today it is 244, which is +9 from where I started. How much water could there possibly be? I figured 10lbs so I would stop at 219 (goal is 209). I started at 235 and have been nowhere near it since. At one point I was 250! I guess it's good that I'm 244 now...

The problem with the whole thing is that though there must be an insane amount of water retention, I seem to have to urinate every 90 minutes or so. I wake up 3-4 times at night because of it (daily water intake is 200oz) so I don't really see what my body is holding on to.

[Seattle Junk]

But the thing is that my weight is not the same. Today it is 244, which is +9 from where I started. How much water could there possibly be? I figured 10lbs so I would stop at 219 (goal is 209). I started at 235 and have been nowhere near it since. At one point I was 250! I guess it's good that I'm 244 now...

The problem with the whole thing is that though there must be an insane amount of water retention, I seem to have to urinate every 90 minutes or so. I wake up 3-4 times at night because of it (daily water intake is 200oz) so I don't really see what my body is holding on to.

Yep, your holding H2O. Track the sodium in your diet. To speed up losing water, you can take diuretics a day after your last DNP dose.

[novicenovicen]

building tolerance?

[SupaDJDiesel]

I guess so. I'm not too happy about that. Going back to 450 because I see potential danger and zero benefits from 675. Will stay at 450 (along with 100mcg T3 and Zyrtec). Hope it continues to work.

I'd like to make it very clear that the '1lb fat loss per day' is not even close to accurate on me. I'd say .4 lbs per day, and that's with proper diet and intense lifting. The original plan was to get from 12%bf to 7%bf, but I don't see that happening.

[Defconx3]

Be VERY careful, DNP builds up in the blood over the cource of your DNP cycle and can quickly reach dangerous levels. I assume that this is your first DNP cycle, so I would not go over the 475mg dosage you are currently taking. I think you will begin to feel more as the cycle progresses.

In addition how is your diet, are you getting carbs?

[SupaDJDiesel]

Be VERY careful, DNP builds up in the blood over the cource of your DNP cycle and can quickly reach dangerous levels. I assume that this is your first DNP cycle, so I would not go over the 475mg dosage you are currently taking. I think you will begin to feel more as the cycle progresses.

In addition how is your diet, are you getting carbs?

I'm gonna stay at 450. Getting plenty of carbs, trying to avoid fats as they hurt my stomach terribly. It's day 10 (technically 11). It's not going so well. It's great that I don't experience any side effects and I can lift at 100% intensity, but I'm also not losing fat at the rate that everyone else seems to.

[Milky87]

Who needs DNP when your sitting in a computer room that is 41 degrees C LD

[SupaDJDiesel]

A strange side effect has recently developed. I have a severe headache on the right side behind my eye, it has been on me for about 40 hours now. Nothing like this was ever mentioned by anyone's account that I've read. Thinking rationally, I should stop... of course I wont, but that's my own problem.

Again, the loss is nowhere near 1lb per day. This will be a 24 day cycle, originally planned 18, but the expected results are not there.

[goose]

A strange side effect has recently developed. I have a severe headache on the right side behind my eye, it has been on me for about 40 hours now. Nothing like this was ever mentioned by anyone's account that I've read. Thinking rationally, I should stop... of course I wont, but that's my own problem.

Again, the loss is nowhere near 1lb per day. This will be a 24 day cycle, originally planned 18, but the expected results are not there.

What dose are you running it at? No pain-killers??


goose4..

[SupaDJDiesel]

What dose are you running it at? No pain-killers??


goose4..

450, took 2 advil, they had 0 effect. Still got the headache today. I don't care. I'm goin to the gym.

[goose]

450, took 2 advil, they had 0 effect. Still got the headache today. I don't care. I'm goin to the gym.

Your a brave man,DNP sides are not to ignore.Many people are dead from DNP,if the sides persists I would reduce the dose.


goose4..

[dr_skier]

i did a trail run at 200mg for 10 days, lost five lbs. My next run was 10 days at 400/day, lost ten lbs, liked that cyce. More heat, more sweating. Starting monday I will go 5 days at 200mgs and 5 days at 600mgs. Just looking to kill that last 10lbs . Bro, make sure you're taking your anti oxidents and vitamins and H20, unless you're about to compete, dont mess with diuetics just wait until the water comes off on its own!!! good luck! (ps- carbs keep the complex at bay and just hit the fruit and simples)

[SupaDJDiesel]

i did a trail run at 200mg for 10 days, lost five lbs. My next run was 10 days at 400/day, lost ten lbs, liked that cyce. More heat, more sweating. Starting monday I will go 5 days at 200mgs and 5 days at 600mgs. Just looking to kill that last 10lbs . Bro, make sure you're taking your anti oxidents and vitamins and H20, unless you're about to compete, dont mess with diuetics just wait until the water comes off on its own!!! good luck! (ps- carbs keep the complex at bay and just hit the fruit and simples)

got the anti-oxidants, vitamins, and water. Currently having fruity pebbles with skim milk. It is magnificent.

Headache is gone, everything seems to be fine... except of course the claim of 1lb. per day. It's not like an overhyped supplement, it's supposed to be the real deal (which it is in some respects). Running it until March 11th, which is a 26 day cycle, all at 450. I weighed myself yesterday, 237.5. No idea what the scale is telling me. I have yet to hit my starting weight since day 1 (235)... then again this whole needing to go for longer gives me ample time to enjoy all the foods I used to as a child (in moderation, of course), such as those gummi sharks.

[Milky87]

That there sounds like soemthing is wrong, very wrong.

Alot of people dont lose 1lb/day. Most would loose about 2/3rds. Hell, even loosing half a pound is an awsome reduction is fat

[SupaDJDiesel]

That there sounds like soemthing is wrong, very wrong.

Alot of people dont lose 1lb/day. Most would loose about 2/3rds. Hell, even loosing half a pound is an awsome reduction is fat

Yeah my body is nice like that. It doesn't move for nothin. Even when I was in football camp and I ran a 4.9 I was 215lbs or so. I'm the only guy that consistently weighed more coming out of camp than I did coming in. I've always had serious problems with fat loss, no idea why. I took a series of tests (bloodwork) and everything seemed to be normal (besides the fact that I have genetic anemia). I thought DNP would bypass whatever problem I had in digestion and I was wrong. Don't get me wrong, I lost some fat, but I'd estimate it at no more than 5-7lbs.

I lost 20lbs. in a month on T3 (up to 200mcg), a very strict diet ~1200 cals/day and ECA 2x daily. I gained 10lbs this month on dnp and T3. How much water retention is there?

[Milky87]

Unless you were giving in to the carb cravings and going for the most-sugar-filed item of food every single time, I would say that pretty much all of it would be water.

How much salt were you taking in? Alot of people recommend V8 while on DNP for the antioxidants and potassium, but im pretty sure it also has alot of sodium which could be what causes the water retention

Oh, and good work with the T3

[SupaDJDiesel]

Unless you were giving in to the carb cravings and going for the most-sugar-filed item of food every single time, I would say that pretty much all of it would be water.

How much salt were you taking in? Alot of people recommend V8 while on DNP for the antioxidants and potassium, but im pretty sure it also has alot of sodium which could be what causes the water retention

Oh, and good work with the T3

I tried V8 and found it so disgusting that I threw out the 4 bottles I bought.

My last pill was at 10pm Saturday. I still have not lost any water! I'm seriously scared because now instead of fat I have all this nasty loose water-filled skin. I'm also very fatigued every day, I thought I would be feeling great. I actually felt better on cycle. My workouts are a joke, my appetite is non-existant, and I'm carrying an insane amount of excess water.

[Milky87]

give it time, your body will sort itself out

[goose]

joevette-one of the best former members,this is how you run a great DNP with results.

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=137484

[SupaDJDiesel]

Ok, it's been a full week since cessation. No return of strength, no loss of water. My muscles shake terribly when I try to lift anything of substantial weight. I used to look like an off-season bodybuilder, now I just look like I'm melting. Depression is setting in.

[alex117k]

Ok, it's been a full week since cessation. No return of strength, no loss of water. My muscles shake terribly when I try to lift anything of substantial weight. I used to look like an off-season bodybuilder, now I just look like I'm melting. Depression is setting in.

You're off the DNP, but what about T3? You've shut your thyroid down and you're gonna need some time for you own T3 production to kick in. Eat adequate protein, low fat and healthy carbs, do some aerobics, use T3 supplements to help get your body back on track. Good luck bro.

[SupaDJDiesel]

You're off the DNP, but what about T3? You've shut your thyroid down and you're gonna need some time for you own T3 production to kick in. Eat adequate protein, low fat and healthy carbs, do some aerobics, use T3 supplements to help get your body back on track. Good luck bro.

Yeah, I forgot about that. I cycled off of T3 properly, stopped a few days before DNP cessation. That wouldn't explain the water, but it does explain the weakness and lethargy. I'm currently using San Blaze, but I forget sometimes (which is very odd) because I'm used to my old supplement schedule.

[SupaDJDiesel]

Lethargy is gone, strength is still nowhere to be seen.

I feel great, but I have several issues:

1. I ran it for 26 days and had a total weight loss of 0
2. I'm still holding water (clearly visible in arms)
3. I look a great deal worse than I did before cycle
4. I've experienced an unprecedented loss of strength:

Major lifts before/after

Bench: 350/235
Squat: 315x10/225x8
Deadlift: ~315/unable to properly lift significant weight

Keep in mind that I have never used steroids and that most of my training outside of these last 2 years has been solely dedicated to improving my performance on the football field.