cigs/marijuana/steroids

[needledik]

first off hold the flames on me, cigs and marijuana peroid to me are stupid substances to use, but i wanna know how bad these 2 will mess up your cycle..

see my friend is about to start a cycle of enanthate which i am currently on, and he smokes half a pack of cigs a day, and weed on avg, every other day.. now before i hound him on quiting i wanna know how serious this will affect his gains, cause i would really not even bother, me ragging on his diet has already cause enough tension in our friendship and i dont wanna start on his smoking if i dont have to.. now please put aside any bias feelings you have towards cigs/marij and could i have an honest answer on how it will effect his gains..

[anabolicvenom]

weed makes me lazy as fvck

[lucabratzi]

cigs wont really mess anything up besides then normal health risks. weed just isnt good cause it makes u lazy as ****, **** up ur diet and actually raises ur estrogen levels...

[TUnit]

when i was into that shit i smoked thru out my whole first cycle, weed and cigs and it didnt mess up my gains. but man was i bloated. about 30-35lbs i gained and i swear....15lbs at least was water. the only good thing weed could do during a cycle is make you hungry as shit. but out of the two the cigs is the worst!!! kills endurance

[needledik]

ok thanks guys, appreciate it, i was expecting diff answers, this actually suprises me a little.. i guess saves me some nattering haha.

[D7M]

I would prob say weed is worse than cigs. true cigs robs your endurance, but you're on gear anyway. I haven't smoked weed in years. Last time I did, I didn't want to anything the whole next day!

[ShnouzedUp]

They are both pointless and lame... tell your buddy to knock that crap off..

[lucabratzi]

I would prob say weed is worse than cigs. true cigs robs your endurance, but you're on gear anyway. I haven't smoked weed in years. Last time I did, I didn't want to anything the whole next day!

i know how u feel, i smoke once every mabey 4-5 months and the next day in the gym i am so lazy and slow...