LIL Help with new cycles.......

[L.Priest]

29 years old, 6'0 180 and prob. around 9%. Tired of being small, but then again, I got that fear that many have with losing striations, cuts, and ABS! But, I don't want to butn the candle at both ends, so I need to concentrate on bulking......

2 cycles under my belt from college days. Complete junk. No pct, plain ignorance. I've been on 200mg of test for about 6 weeks now as a maint. since my test level were naturally low from the beginning.

12 weeks.......

500mg test cyp
400mg eq
dbol weeks 1-4 (will this cause a lot of water retention, never used an oral)


cut - 12 weeks
tren ace (not sure of dose)
clen
winny 50mg ed wks 1-6
prop 100mg eod wks 1-12......

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1-12 500mg test cyp ew
1-11 400mg eq ew
1-4 dbol 30mg ed
1-12 Nolva 20mg ed <-- for gyno & water retention

Pct Clomid & nolva

I dont experince alot of water with dbol as much as keepable gains & through the roof strength its a good cycle to put some size & dont forget to get your diet in check its the only way to grow.

good luck

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[L.Priest]

perfect.....and the cut cycle?

[Gra]

Do some research, and maybe concentrate on the bulker first. Rome wasn`t built in a day..

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perfect.....and the cut cycle?

As for the cutting here if its your first time with tren go with 50mg ed if there is no problem up it to 75mg & thats it but i would stick just to 50mg & the next time up it to 75.I would shoot the prop ed at 75mg & put the winny at last 6wks to finish with here like this


1-12prop 75mg ed

1-6 tren ace 50mg ed

clen 2 on & 2 off the dose depend on you start with 20mcg & up it till you feel there is too much sides personally i can go over 2 pills some people must go over 7 or 10 till the feel it, it totally depends on you & how you respond to it.

6-12 winny 50mg ed

1-12 Nolva 20mg ed for gyno

Pct start 24hrs after last winny injection Clomid & Nolvadex

good luck

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[Booz]

1-12 500mg test cyp ew
1-11 400mg eq ew
1-4 dbol 30mg ed
1-12 Nolva 20mg ed <-- for gyno & water retention

Pct Clomid & nolva

I dont experince alot of water with dbol as much as keepable gains & through the roof strength its a good cycle to put some size & dont forget to get your diet in check its the only way to grow.

good luck

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if you are goint to run a cycle such as the abouve imo i would extend the test and eq for one week each!

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good catch booz the eq is so slow but i though he might dont want to go over 12wks

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[BUYLONGTERM]

1-12 500mg test cyp ew
1-11 400mg eq ew
1-4 dbol 30mg ed
1-12 Nolva 20mg ed <-- for gyno & water retention

Pct Clomid & nolva

I dont experince alot of water with dbol as much as keepable gains & through the roof strength its a good cycle to put some size & dont forget to get your diet in check its the only way to grow.

good luck

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First off, I wouldn't run DBOL. It definitely will bloat you. I would jumpstart your cycle with Test Prop. Also, I would run the Test for 14 weeks and the EQ for 13. Eq takes several weeks to kick in and I would NOT run it under 12 weeks. I'd run a cycle like looked something like this...

Week 1-4 Test Prop 75mgED
Week 1-14 Test Cyp 500mg
Week 1-13 EQ 400mg
Nolva - 10mg ED
Ldex - .25 ED
PCT - 2 weeks after last Test injection.

[Booz]

yup the prop is a better option!if you do not mind the inj.

[Swifto]

First off, I wouldn't run DBOL . It definitely will bloat you. I would jumpstart your cycle with Test Prop. Also, I would run the Test for 14 weeks and the EQ for 13. Eq takes several weeks to kick in and I would NOT run it under 12 weeks. I'd run a cycle like looked something like this...

Week 1-4 Test Prop 75mgED
Week 1-14 Test Cyp 500mg
Week 1-13 EQ 400mg
Nolva - 10mg ED
Ldex - .25 ED
PCT - 2 weeks after last Test injection.

Amen.

I'd kickstart with Tbol, end with Test Prop personally.