proviron

**shadow123** · 02-26-2006, 03:43 AM

running cycle of test e ( weeks 1-8)/winny depot (weeks 6- 10)
pct clomid/nolva( 12 hrs after last winy shoT)

few questions
if i run 25mg ed of proviron from week 2 till week 7 will this keep water off
my cycle is 10 weeks

any sides with proviron heard its bad of hair

**ODC0717** · 02-26-2006, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by shadow123

running cycle of test e ( weeks 1-8)/winny depot (weeks 6- 10)
pct clomid/nolva( 12 hrs after last winy shoT)

few questions
if i run 25mg ed of proviron from week 2 till week 7 will this keep water off
my cycle is 10 weeks

any sides with proviron heard its bad of hair

I'd extend the test to at least 10 weeks. 12 would be ideal, but that's me. Why are you going to run proviron for 5 weeks only if your cycle is 10 weeks? So you're beginning provirion at week 2 and stopping at week 7, and not using anything else for estrogen until weeks 10, which is when you begin PCT? That dosen't sound too smart to me. You'll need something to manage your estrogen for the few weeks until you begin PCT. Nolva would be a good choice. I'm using Proviron right now. Actually I take 25mg proviron, 10mg nolva and switch it with 0.5mg ldex weekly, which has been working quite well, and actually I feel and look more dry with the prov/nolva combo rather then the ldex alone. Haven't lost much of any hair, but I've always used special shampoos, conditioners, etc...

**shadow123** · 02-26-2006, 05:05 AM

so can u tell me why stopping proviron after 5 weeks would be bad

**Swifto** · 02-26-2006, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by shadow123

so can u tell me why stopping proviron after 5 weeks would be bad

Whats the point in preventing water retention for 5 weeks, then stop the Proviron after the 5 weeks, probably making water retention become apparent. This isnt a good idea if you cutting/hardening with the Winny for the final 4 weeks. Surely you dont want water weight when doing this, do you?

Another thing is SHBG. Proviron has a high binding affinity to SHBG, freeing more testosterone . SHBG levels seem to build up with time, so stopping it at 5 weeks is not going to reduce SHBG levels at all. Keep running the Proviron for the entire cycle and PCT IMHO.

**vitor** · 02-26-2006, 05:37 AM

Run Proviron the whole cycle + PCT IMO.

And yes, proviron is a very effective anti-bloat compound.

**Swifto** · 02-26-2006, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by vitor

Run Proviron the whole cycle + PCT IMO.

And yes, proviron is a very effective anti-bloat compound.

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**shadow123** · 02-26-2006, 07:54 AM

thanks will run upto pct also are sides harsh

but proviron pct is a no no

It is recommended that Proviron should not be ran during PCT, it is slightly androgenic and will not IMO aid in recovery, if anything - it will slightly hinder recovery.

**Swifto** · 02-26-2006, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by shadow123

thanks will run upto pct also are sides harsh

but proviron pct is a no no

It is recommended that Proviron should not be ran during PCT, it is slightly androgenic and will not IMO aid in recovery, if anything - it will slightly hinder recovery.

Who recommends this?!

Proviron will increase serum levels of LH/FSH and inturn, Testosterone . it will also bind to SHBG. Even at high doses it wont effect the HPTA. It will also increase ones sex drive, something that isnt usually prevalant during PCT. I use it during PCT, and I suggest it to other members too.

**marcus300** · 02-26-2006, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Who recommends this?!

Proviron will increase serum levels of LH/FSH and inturn, Testosterone. it will also bind to SHBG. Even at high doses it wont effect the HPTA. It will also increase ones sex drive, something that isnt usually prevalant during PCT. I use it during PCT, and I suggest it to other members too.

Totaly agreed with swifto, its an excellent compound for pct, 10/10

**RokSolid** · 03-19-2006, 08:23 PM

Hi I was taking androstenesione a couple of years a ago i took it 1 pill a day for 1 months time. I was drinking alcohol on it but I wast rining ahrd and bulking I dont tihnk I really neededit because I am naturally big. Anyhow after I got off of it I felt Ok i was drinking alcohol BEING TAHT i WAS i 17 YRS OLD AND JSUT AHVING A GOOD TIMEin september of that year whcihc was two months after i finished taking it I got the classic withdrawal and shutdown case ( insomnia no appetite, no sex drive, dry eyes dry mouth, depression anxiety, and muscle weakness) all the great ones I was told my my hpta would recover I kind of hink it did in a way but it is still very bad my T level is 320 total and I was told taht my estrogen level is not too bad but bad to my test ratio this has been going on since 2002 I know I retain water and I kjnew peobably estrogen was a problem in recovering I basically ahve all the side effects like no libido poor strength and energy levels......I never tried to take clomid ...nolvadex ...H.C.G. because I dont ahve easy access to them I have been ahving these symptoms and I ahve not recovered from 2002 I was wondering If you can give any advice PLEASE WRITE BACK

**RokSolid** · 03-19-2006, 11:25 PM

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**justtrnd40** · 03-20-2006, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by shadow123

thanks will run upto pct also are sides harsh

but proviron pct is a no no

It is recommended that Proviron should not be ran during PCT, it is slightly androgenic and will not IMO aid in recovery, if anything - it will slightly hinder recovery.

You better do some more research on this. If you have never used it how can you have an opinion. If you don't want to use it in pct thats fine but saying using it in pct is a no no is bad advice.

**BigChris** · 03-20-2006, 07:09 AM

Proviron bad for PCT???

Uhhhmmm...I don't think so! It's a good anti-estrogen, it lowers SHBG, it aides in natural test recovery...and keeps Mr Willy awake while you are on PCT, and and and!

I have been using it for many many years during PCT and believe in it -> so does my doctor.

**Mesomorphyl** · 03-20-2006, 07:29 AM

I tried it in pct... Sex drive stays up, but actual recovery took roughly same amount of time.

By the way I think 25mg is too low try 50mg-100mg, IMO