26days into prop cycle.

[allinthemind]

Well i been doing 100mg of test prop every day for 26 days so far and i have put on roughly 5kg, i have been pumping the protein into me and training like a demon, my strength is through the roof. i'm also doing 3 x 15 min sessions of cardio a week. And i have been eating really well.

Oh yea my sex drive is gone pretty much. that sucks

Should i be happy with 5kg weight increase?
Also what do people recommend for stripping bf and cutting up? i got the diet down pat.
Some people tell me clen some say tren , it's easy for me to obtain clen so should i get it? is it safe and will it be effective?

[Kale]

well I presume you are bulking so forget about cutting until your cycle is finished, you cant do both!!! 5kg is fantastic for 26 days. How long will your cycle be ? What else are you taking ? Now tell me, does the Prop hurt ?

[allinthemind]

Hey kale you seem to reply to all my posts (must be a aussie thing).
Yea sorry i forgot to write it but yea i obviously meant was is best for cutting when my cycle is finished?

I'm doing a 12 week prop only cycle 100mg every day.

well 26 days into it and im damn well used to getting a shot every day but to be honest the shots only really hurt for the first week really, now i think im used to the pain it's great, but i do get the occasianal shot that hurts.

well i was roughly 80kg when i started but for the past week i have been sitting between 84kg and 86kg, water retention seems to flucuate somedays i will notice im holding some water other days i have now and look really lean.

I want to use nolva only for my pct but im struggling to get my hands on it, atm the moment i can only get clomid, hope some comes around by the time i finish the cycle.

What is your opinions on my pct and cutting up after this cycle?
I want to keep my gains but strip the bodyfat to minimal.
Should i just stick to a hard cardio workout and a good diet or hit clen or tren or something?


Thanks in advance

[bigJJ]

I love that cycle. It's great because you can bulk or cut, all depending on your diet.

As for getting nolva, just click on the word nolva <<<<(right there) and you can buy some. It's called Tamoxofin Citrate.

I'm suprised your sex drive is gone? Prop puts mine through the roof! Try adding 10mg - 20mg of nolva /day while on cycle, that may help.

[bigJJ]

What is your opinions on my pct and cutting up after this cycle?
I want to keep my gains but strip the bodyfat to minimal.
Should i just stick to a hard cardio workout and a good diet or hit clen or tren or something?


Thanks in advance

I'm liking 20mg of nolva/day for 30 days as my PCT right now. That's all.

For stripping bodyfat, nothing beats AM cardio on an empty stomach. That and a low fat, high protein diet. Get used to oatmeal (the real kind, not the sugary pre-made stuff), chicken breast, turkey breast (the real stuff, avoid cold cuts), brown rice, veggies, lowfat cottage cheese before bed, etc...

Clen just gives me the shakes and makes me sweat too much without too much fat loss. Tren is a powerful steroid that needs to be used along with Test in a proper cycle, so I'd say forget about that for now.

Cardio and diet. The hardest two parts, but the two that produce the best results!

[Liftnainez]

Your sex drive is gone while using prop? thats kind of odd.. I have never used prop but would think using test would increase libido..
good job on your results thoughs and make sure not to try and cut and do all out cardio during PCT- you will loose the hard earned muscle you worked for..

[Kale]

I'm liking 20mg of nolva/day for 30 days as my PCT right now. That's all.

For stripping bodyfat, nothing beats AM cardio on an empty stomach. That and a low fat, high protein diet. Get used to oatmeal (the real kind, not the sugary pre-made stuff), chicken breast, turkey breast (the real stuff, avoid cold cuts), brown rice, veggies, lowfat cottage cheese before bed, etc...

Clen just gives me the shakes and makes me sweat too much without too much fat loss. Tren is a powerful steroid that needs to be used along with Test in a proper cycle, so I'd say forget about that for now.

Cardio and diet. The hardest two parts, but the two that produce the best results!

I pretty much agree with all of this but I would give the Clen a go, it works different for everybody and you might get some real benefit out of it. Forget the Tren as well !!!

[stupidhippo]

its also dose dependant.. many ppl who use high doses they lose their sex drive.. His dosage aint that high but I hear many ppl saying that their sex drive is down when exceeding 800 mg.. I personally feel the same.. 1.5 g's of test and no libido.. 400 mg of test a week and my sex drive is through the roof.

[Liftnainez]

interesting.. i wasnt aware of that.. thanks bro

[speedtraining]

sex drive gone is very unusal i would start to question my gear at that point, i mean its test your sex drive should be incredible.

[taiboxa]

WTF no no no test INCREASES ON PROP FOR SURE LOL
u got something wrong w/ your gear FOR SURE!

[allinthemind]

well the sex drive is there somedays it through but other days nothing.
how can i test my gear?

[allinthemind]

ohhh yea and im in australia so i don't wanna order nolva through an american website due to customs (they are pretty tight over here ).

[allinthemind]

come to think of it my gear must be doing something the 6kg i put on doesn't come from nowhere.........

[bigJJ]

ohhh yea and im in australia so i don't wanna order nolva through an american website due to customs (they are pretty tight over here ).

Lion, the owner of that site, swears he can get stuff to any country in the world. Simply because it is a "research chemical". It is even labeled "not for human consumption". It is a research material.

It is for use in your research lab. On your rats and mice. (why rats and mice would need flavored chemicals is another question)

[Iceman69]

My Rats aren Mice have fine tastes indeed!!

[allinthemind]

i don't like the idea of people knowing what im doing.
especially the rats....................