First cycle need help!

[georgeous_33]

Hey guys. Ive got 4 years of natural training experience behind me. Ive competed in INBA before and came second and my first show. Im starting my first cycle. Im doing 200mg propinate a week and 200mg of deca. Small first cycle. Its an 8 week cycle and I split it like this.
Tuesday: 100mg prop with 50mg deca
Thursday: 100mg prop with 50mg deca
Sunday:100mg deca
I was wondering what sort of gains can I expect from this cycle? I havent been able to get my hands on any nolva or clomid so im just gonna take some tribulus and ZMA after my cycle to bring up my natural test. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[stocky121]

sorry mate that's a shit cycle if your only going to shoot prop twice per week

go with a longer ester like test eth or test cyp and drop the deca for the first cycle

[Booz]

what are your stats mate!
prop needs to be taken ed if not eod!

[Jnrmrplymouth]

Thats a strange layout. I dont see the point in splitting up the deca like that. Deca is a long lasting steroid so if your going to do that just do 200mgs once a week. Plus as stocky said..........using prop 2x a week is a bad idea. Blood levels will be all over the place plus its one of the quickest acting steroids. A much simpler and wiser solution is to do 500mgs of test enanthate or cypionate per week for 10 weeks.

PCT isnt too good either. Trib and ZMA alone wont do much. You need to do stuff like clomid or nolva.

[Swifto]

Thats up there with the most shocking cycles I've seen laid out.

Run the Test Prop at 75mg/ED and drop the Deca IMHO. It isnt needed for a first cycle. Its a very suppressive androgen and it side effects can be hard to control. Its also got to be run for 8+ weeks IMHO for its maximum effects.

Test Prop isnt ideal for a first cycle, due to its injection frequency required to attain peaked blood plasma levels. ED is best, but you can get away with EOD. 8 weeks is long enough to run it, though longer would be better, as it has a fast acting ester in it, Propionate, which becomes active in as little as 3 days.

You also should look into running a SERM or AI to combat any estrogen related side effects associated with the aromotasing Test Prop.

Whats your PCT layout?

You also need ot do far more research before embarking on another AS/ProHormone cycle IMHO. Most of this is common knowledge. Miss-using AS can cause many short/long term health issues that one wants to avoid and can be avoided if done correctly with the right understanding.

[georgeous_33]

Thanks for the advice guys. Its not practical for me to use a longer easter cos ive already got 3, 10 ml vials of prop at 100mg per ml and 3 vials of deca 50. Yeah your right deca ill just do one injection a week the whole 200mg. Propinate ill up to every other day that sounds good to me. Ive got plenty of prop to do that. What do you guys think?

[georgeous_33]

My stats are 88kg 11% bodyfat. 3 years natural training experience. Im cursing that I cant get my hands on nolva or clomid because I know the importance of it. How hard is it to obtain from a doctor?

[marcus300]

Thanks for the advice guys. Its not practical for me to use a longer easter cos ive already got 3, 10 ml vials of prop at 100mg per ml and 3 vials of deca 50. Yeah your right deca ill just do one injection a week the whole 200mg. Propinate ill up to every other day that sounds good to me. Ive got plenty of prop to do that. What do you guys think?

cut the deca out of the cycle and if its prop your going to run 75mg ED or 150mg EOD