Difference in opinion???

[juicer34]

I have heard 2 sides to this story from various boards/friends....

Some people say its pointless to use Var on a tren/prop cycle.....some say its kickass......

so, whatta ya'll think??

[SPIKE]

I dont see why it would be pointless?

I'm sure some may have not run Var long enough or even at a high enough dose to get the full benefits out of it. Maybe that is the reason they said it was pointless. I for one love it and am starting it back up sooner then later.

[juicer34]

right but how good does it work together???

[Swifto]

Prop/Tren are 2 androgens that will suit to ones goals fairly easily. Both can be used for cutting/bulking, though, this is diet dependant.

Var is also used for cutter/bulkers but is primeraly used for LBM quailty gains. It also has fat burning properties and is one of the less suppressive androgens to the HPTA.

It would work well with Prop/Tren IMHO.

[SPIKE]

Synergy is the biggest word in my Anabolic Androgenic vocabulary....

Prop and Tren bind very well to the AR, Tren of course being the stronger of the 2. Var binds pretty good to the AR but doesnt aromatize. Those 3 combined will all have different binding capabilites creating a more synergistic effect.

Prop and Tren can be used in either cutters or bulkers as Swift stated. Var is predominately used in cutters so to answer your question Juicer It will be more so goal oriented.......

[Swifto]

Synergy is the biggest word in my Anabolic Androgenic vocabulary....

Prop and Tren bind very well to the AR, Tren of course being the stronger of the 2. Var binds pretty good to the AR but doesnt aromatize. Those 3 combined will all have different binding capabilites creating a more synergistic effect.

Prop and Tren can be used in either cutters or bulkers as Swift stated. Var is predominately used in cutters so to answer your question Juicer It will be more so goal oriented.......

Just to add.

Var, being a DHT-Deriviative, will also reduce SHBG levels the elevated testosterone will cause. It binds to SHBG freeing more available testosterone. It also argued that DHT-Deriviatives (Anavar) will reduce/prevent progesterone related side effects that the Tren may cause.

I think it will fit nicely with Prop/Tren.

[omnipotent]

Just to add.

Var, being a DHT-Deriviative, will also reduce SHBG levels the elevated testosterone will cause. It binds to SHBG freeing more available testosterone. It also argued that DHT-Deriviatives (Anavar) will reduce/prevent progesterone related side effects that the Tren may cause.

I think it will fit nicely with Prop/Tren.

agreed .


its a good combo , my friend juss finished that cycle he liked it alot .

[SPIKE]

Var, being a DHT-Deriviative, will also reduce SHBG levels the elevated testosterone will cause. It binds to SHBG freeing more available testosterone. It also argued that DHT-Deriviatives (Anavar) will reduce/prevent progesterone related side effects that the Tren may cause.

Just to add some more

Since Var has a decent binding affinity to the AR it will act in your body in different ways than the Tren and Prop, as already stated. Since it's a DHT deriv and Tren is a 19-nor, the prop will give you a cutting cycle which combines all of the 3 major families of AAS...........

[Swifto]

Just to add some more

Since Var has a decent binding affinity to the AR it will act in your body in different ways than the Tren and Prop, as already stated. Since it's a DHT deriv and Tren is a 19-nor, the prop will give you a cutting cycle which combines all of the 3 major families of AAS...........

Little tag team going on here Jay.

[vitor]

It also argued that DHT-Deriviatives (Anavar) will reduce/prevent progesterone related side effects that the Tren may cause.

I think it will fit nicely with Prop/Tren.

I have heard that winstrol will block progesterone related sides by binding to the progesterone recepter, which will block the site.

Apperently anavar binds mostly to the AR, while winstrol is effective at the non-AR meditaded.

Do you know how anavar woud block progesterone? Where have you heard this? (Ime not saying that youre wrong, yust wonder.)

[Swifto]

I heard this at Meso. I'm sure it was Bill Roberts who stated that DHT-Deriviatives effect Progesterone and its side effects in similar ways to Winstrol as its also a DHT-Deriviative. Other DHT-Deriviatives may not be as effective as Winstrol at this action though.

[SPIKE]

Little tag team going on here Jay.

Tag me in, I'm ready partner

[vitor]

That could be.

Ive read an interview with Bill Roberts where he talks about the anti-progesterone effects of winstrol. (I guess it would always be greate to stack with tren or deca then.)