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    Swifto's Cycle NO.2#

    Ok....

    My 2nd cycle is very similar to my first, as some of you may know, it got ruined by pneumonia. I lost all 24lbs and more due to it. So, I didnt see any major reason why I should change it, I'd call 24lbs a success, so why change it drastically?

    This is it:

    wk 1-8 Tbol 60mg/ED (BD)
    wk 1-14 Test Enan 500mg/wk (Schering)
    wk 12-16 Test Prop 75mg/ED (BD)
    wk 1-PCT Proviron 25-50mg/ED
    wk 1-PCT HCG 500-1000ius/wk
    Nolva kept on hand.

    PCT begins 14 days after the final Enan shot and 3 days after the final Test Prop shot. PCT is as follows:

    wk 1-3 HCG 1000ius/ED (Mon/Wed/Fri)
    wk 1-5 Nolva 20mg/ED
    wk 1-5 Proviron 50mg/ED
    wk 1-? Clen 20mcg/ED (Increasing by comparing effects/sides)

    Supps:

    wk 1-5 Creatine 5g/ED
    wk 1-5 L-Glutamine 10g/ED

    MultiVitamin, Omega 3's, 1500mg/ED Vit-C, B Complex Vitamin supplment and MilkThistle.

    Please fire away and critque where you think required. Also whats the best Clen protocol in your opinion.

    Thanks.

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    look's spot on to me mate i agree if it ain't broke don't fix it

    hope this one go's better than the last one mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by stocky121
    look's spot on to me mate i agree if it ain't broke don't fix it

    hope this one go's better than the last one mate
    I tweaked it slightly. But its very similar.

    Thanks. Lets hope so.

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    Cycle looks great!!!! Shering makes some dam good Enanthate , curious to see how you like/dislike BD's Prop........

    I honeslty wouldnt change a thing. The Clen protocol will vary among everyone. All I can recommend is what has worked for me and that was 2 days on 1 day off. I'd run that straight for 6 weeks, it will end right after PCT then get some bloodwork to see how you're looking. I wont get into how to ramp up the dosage and when to take it b/c I know you have all of that under control........................

    Best of Luck buddy!!!!

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    Good luck swifto as for the clen i always run it throughout the cycle non stop personally i get better results this way.

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    Cycle looks great!!!! Shering makes some dam good Enanthate , curious to see how you like/dislike BD's Prop........

    I honeslty wouldnt change a thing. The Clen protocol will vary among everyone. All I can recommend is what has worked for me and that was 2 days on 1 day off. I'd run that straight for 6 weeks, it will end right after PCT then get some bloodwork to see how you're looking. I wont get into how to ramp up the dosage and when to take it b/c I know you have all of that under control........................

    Best of Luck buddy!!!!
    Thanks.

    I'm contemplating whether to add Vit-E into the PCT protocol, like Hooker does to magnify the effects of HCG ? I may do that for future cycles.

    I'm also contemplating whether to run a low dose of Nolva, at say 10mg/ED, to prevent any Leydig Cell dessensisization that may occur from running HCG for 16 weeks AND PCT. Leydig Cell dessensisization may have already occurred by my PCT, so introducing the Nolva during PCT may be too late. What you think?

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    Ime sure you will make greate gains here.

    Yust wondering, whats the reasen for not using Proviron in the cycle to? (That would only make the testosterone more effective and produce more gains)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    whats the reasen for not using Proviron in the cycle to? (That would only make the testosterone more effective and produce more gains)
    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    wk 1-PCT Proviron 25-50mg/ED

    Dam Vitor I thought you had one of the best eyes on here brotha

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    ive already told you i like it swifty!
    i think the vit-E will only help,i am going to add it to my pct.

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    Sorry, i mis-read!

    You are using the Prov. Good luck...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Sorry, i mis-read!

    You are using the Prov. Good luck...
    Yeah.

    I said "wk 1-PCT".

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Sorry, i mis-read!
    You and those dam Exclamation points!!!!!

    Cycle looks great Swifto, good call on the Proviron Vitor. It's always nice to recommend something for a reason just to notice that it was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    ive already told you i like it swifty!
    i think the vit-E will only help,i am going to add it to my pct.
    Yeah. For the cost of it, I think I will too. I've been persuaded...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    Dam Vitor I thought you had one of the best eyes on here brotha
    Yeah, heng-over from last night...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    You and those dam Exclamation points!!!!!

    Cycle looks great Swifto, good call on the Proviron Vitor. It's always nice to recommend something for a reason just to notice that it was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    You and those dam Exclamation points!!!!!

    Cycle looks great Swifto, good call on the Proviron Vitor. It's always nice to recommend something for a reason just to notice that it was there.
    Hey Jay!!!!!(yust kidding)

    Whats your age? (yust wonder)

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    i dont know how hcg works for you but i have had best results running it 2weeks before pct and a week or 2 into pct at a lower dosage w/ more frequent shots.

    just throwin it out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    Whats your age?
    Me? 25, somewhere around the same as you Vitor........



    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    i have had best results running it 2weeks before pct and a week or 2 into pct at a lower dosage w/ more frequent shots.
    I too like that. I'd start it at week 14 and run it with the prop and maybe a week into PCT.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova
    Me? 25, somewhere around the same as you Vitor........





    I too like that. I'd start it at week 14 and run it with the prop and maybe a week into PCT.......
    Yeah its an idea. I guess the problem of Leydig Cell dessensitization would also be avioded that way.

    Tai's a genius!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Yeah its an idea. I guess the problem of Leydig Cell dessensitization would also be avioded that way.

    Tai's a genius!
    You sir.. have NO IDEA!

    if i didnt have ADD im sure i would definetly be able to crea... oh wow look at all these smiles on the side of my skreen OHHhh

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    You sir.. have NO IDEA!

    if i didnt have ADD im sure i would definetly be able to crea... oh wow look at all these smiles on the side of my skreen OHHhh

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    cycle looks very nice.. good luck brotha

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    I like the cycle, definitely would run that.

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