Cycle Injection Logistics Question

**MAXIMA5** · 02-27-2006, 01:00 PM

I've just started the following cycle and would like input on a few issues.

Testex Human Grade Test Cyp 600 mg EW W 1-12
EQ BD 600 mg EW W 1-11
Anavar BD 50-60mg ED W 1-6 11-12
Letro Pct

I have several questions.

INJECTION DOSE
The testex comes in 2ml 250 mg ampules - Obviously, this makes using 600 mg injections impossible. Any suggestions? Would 500 mg EW be adequate?

Also, I have 23G 3 cc syringes, which make it impossible to combine 2 cc Test and 1.5 cc EQ in one syringe. My first day I had to double inject. This is a pain in the ass (and quad)

PCT

I already have Letro - any recommendations for PCT?

I'd appreciate any suggestions how to resolve these minor problems.

Oh, also, I am 26 yo 6'1" 247 lbs 17 % body fat (and dropping)
12 years gym experience.

**tonytone** · 02-27-2006, 01:06 PM

i would run the var for 8 wks straight @ 60mg ED
dropping the test to 500mg/wk would make it easier

what's your cycle experience?

**Hard Head** · 02-27-2006, 01:07 PM

Dude, 1st cycle? Too much gear if so.

Not your 1st cycle?

I'd not put 3.5cc into one body part at once, that's crazy. Take your 2 shots and stop being a bitch about it. I'd either go with 500 or 750 on the testex.

**Xtralarg** · 02-27-2006, 01:09 PM

I would run the cyp at 750 if I ware doing eq at 600

**MAXIMA5** · 02-27-2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Hard Head

Dude, 1st cycle? Too much gear if so.

Not your 1st cycle?

I'd not put 3.5cc into one body part at once, that's crazy. Take your 2 shots and stop being a bitch about it. I'd either go with 500 or 750 on the testex.

2nd cycle.

Let me get this straight... You think it's too much gear but you think I should up the test to 750 mg?

ANd yes, it's overkill on one bodypart, which is why I shot one in my glute and one in my quad.

**MAXIMA5** · 02-27-2006, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by xtralarg

I would run the cyp at 750 if I ware doing eq at 600

Ok, this is an option. Then I could do 2 EQ injections of 300mg EQ (M TH) and three 250 mg injections of the testex (M W S).

Would the var be better used adding 2 weeks to the front end, or adding the last 2 weeks.

Thanks for the input btw

**Xtralarg** · 02-27-2006, 01:47 PM

I would run the var for the last 6 weeks at 50mg ed

**Hard Head** · 02-27-2006, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by MAXIMA5

2nd cycle.

Let me get this straight... You think it's too much gear but you think I should up the test to 750 mg?

ANd yes, it's overkill on one bodypart, which is why I shot one in my glute and one in my quad.

Too much gear for a 1st cycle.

I might consider.
test cyp 250mg Mon, Thurs, Sat.
eq 200mg Tues, Fr, Sun.
Wed you can train legs & no shots (yipee)

Rember that with cyp, 30% is the ester so with 750mg cyp/wk you are getting 525mg test/wk.

Please don't consider my suggestions as appropriate, only a possible scenario.

**MAXIMA5** · 02-28-2006, 08:33 AM

What do you think about this scenario? I know the test has a long half life in the body, but I was thinking about only doing two EQ shopts at 300 mg each.

MOnday - Test 250 mg (R glute) EQ 300 mg (R Quad)
Tuesday - Nothing
Wednesday Test 250 Mg (L Glute)
Thursday EQ 300 mg (L Quad)
Friday Nothing
Sat Test 250 mg (R glute)

**Hard Head** · 02-28-2006, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by MAXIMA5

MOnday - Test 250 mg (R glute) EQ 300 mg (R Quad)
Tuesday - Nothing
Wednesday Test 250 Mg (L Glute)
Thursday EQ 300 mg (L Quad)
Friday Nothing
Sat Test 250 mg (R glute)

I think you need at lease one more injection site, your Rglute might be getting too much juice per week. Lat?

**MAXIMA5** · 02-28-2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Hard Head

I think you need at lease one more injection site, your Rglute might be getting too much juice per week. Lat?

To be honest, Glutes scare me more than quads. I can;t use both hands because I can;t reach and the needle moves while I'm trying to aspirate .

I was thinking about trying delts, but aren;t there a lot of nerves there?

**Hard Head** · 02-28-2006, 09:56 AM

Right now I'm hitting my quads. Alternating a high and a low spot on each. I find it difficult to go to the glute without a mirror and I also can't use both hands. I was thinking about the hamstring but there has to be some reason no one uses it. You could hit that sitting down, on the side. I can't reach across my chest to hit a delt so that is out of the q for me.

**Hard Head** · 02-28-2006, 10:08 AM

I might hit calves but start slowly, maybe just a little eq to get the muscle used to the juice.

**MAXIMA5** · 02-28-2006, 10:20 AM

I might try using 2 sites on each quad too. I'm kind of sore, but I'll get used to it.

OK, hypothetically speaking....say I forgot to aspirate my glute because I couldn;t reach. If I hit a vein or bloodvessel I would have either tasted gear, passed out, got dizzy, or bled, right? If nothing happened, that means successful injection, right?

**Hard Head** · 02-28-2006, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by MAXIMA5

I might try using 2 sites on each quad too. I'm kind of sore, but I'll get used to it.

But not twice in the same week I hope.

OK, hypothetically speaking....say I forgot to aspirate my glute because I couldn;t reach. If I hit a vein or bloodvessel I would have either tasted gear, passed out, got dizzy, or bled, right? If nothing happened, that means successful injection, right?

Probably. From what I understand if you injected oil into a vein, you would have had tasted it plus had uncontrollable coughing.