whats a better cycle for lean, hard muscle?

[JUICEMONKEY2005]

1000mgs cyp wks 1-12
100mgs ed tren wks 1-7
75mgs ed winny wks 8-14....or

1000mgs cyp wks 1-12
npp eod wks 1-8
winny 75mgs wks 8-14....im 6-5 235 and this is my 5th cycle....im lookin to add a solid, lean, hard 10 pounds....thanks for any advice!

[stocky121]

out of the 2 choice's the first one

[TRE]

you'll get more then 10 pounds with either of those. A lot of test for a lean muscle gain in my opinion.

In all I would say the first is better

[sp9]

Sorry to bring this up, but your looking to run a gram of test for just 10 lbs when you talked about already having gyno?

I just don't understand that.

Are you competing in body building? Did the attempt you made to work on the gyno with certain drugs do any good?

Hope that question is not upsetting, just looking for an update on your gyno situation, and why you would run such a high dose for 10lbs?

[SPIKE]

I like the first one as well but either one will give you 10lbs. with proper diet and trainng.........

[restless1]

i dont know about you but i can easily, easily gain 10+pds of hard muscle w/ using tren@100mgs ed and maintain it afterward

[fitnesstrainer1967]

#1 both are fine but 1 is better imo

[JUICEMONKEY2005]

yea i took 40mgs of nolva ed for the past month and it pretty much went away....its shrunk a ton....i still have a very small amount so i will watch it throughout the cycle and in post cycle....ok ill stick with option number 1...thanks for the advice bros

[JUICEMONKEY2005]

and i dont blow up on cypionate like i do on sust and enanthate....i took 600mgs for 10 wks last summer with tren for the first 8 wks at 100mgs ed and winny for the last 6 wks at 75mgs ed and after dieting i dropped 7 pounds....u thinkin 1000mgs is too high? i did 600 and didnt blow up so im hopin 1000 puts me over the threshold!...what do u think???

[sp9]

yea i took 40mgs of nolva ed for the past month and it pretty much went away....its shrunk a ton....i still have a very small amount so i will watch it throughout the cycle and in post cycle....ok ill stick with option number 1...thanks for the advice bros

What is your diet going to look like while running this one? Please keep us updated on your progress with a cycle diary when you start.

Thanks.

[JUICEMONKEY2005]

my diet is gonna be high in protein and calories to start...but clean calories...alot of chicken, steak, and protein shakes....when i start the winny i will up the cardio to about 3 miles of running a day 5 times a week....i will keep a diary...thanks for the advice....one more question what do u think i should take while on the cycle...20mgs of nolva a day or letro ed????

[sp9]

I would defer to someone with tren experience. I have used test and had no problems controling gyno symptoms with nolva at 10mg a day. Not sure what the best recommendation is based on your prior side effect and the combination of test and tren both being able to cause gyno by different mechanisms.

[JUICEMONKEY2005]

does anyone have any advice what to take to combat some very slight gyno but to avoid it gettin worse????