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    Which one plus your opinions...?

    I will be looking for bulk during this cylce this will be my first bulk cylce, all previous cycles have been for strength and no weight gains. Here are my options...

    Cycle 1:
    Wks 1-4 Dbol ED @ 50mgs
    Wks 1-13 Testabolin (300mg test cyp, 200mg deca ) at 2cc per week (will drop deca on week 12, also will admin. 1cc twice a week).

    Cylce 2:
    Wks 1-4 Dbol ED @ 50mgs
    Wks 1-13 Testapoise (250mg test enth, 300mg EQ) at 2cc per week (will admin two times a week at one cc)
    Q1: On this cycle does EQ need to be dropped early as with deca?
    Q2: If its better to run test e higher than EQ i can not get the combo vial and run at my own dosages.

    Cycle 3:
    Wks 1-4 Dbol 50mg ED
    Wks 1-13 Testosterone K (250cyp, 250 enan) at 2cc per week admin twice at one cc
    Wks 1-12 Deca or EQ?

    Or would ya recommend since this is my first bulk cycle to just do leave it to just one test? If you see anyway of improving a cycle or doing something a smarter/better way just say so. The more feedback the better.

    Will run Nolva everyweek throught all cycles plus appropriate PCT for each cycle.


    Thanks

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    If it's your first go you can do something like this...

    1-12 Test E or Cyp 500-750mgs
    1-10/11 Deca 400-600mgs
    1-4 Dbol 50 mgs

    Again this is just an idea..You should adjust the dose according to your experience. If you were to run the EQ don't run it at any less than 600mgs for 12-14 weeks and make sure you run the test at a higher MG than the EQ.

    Keep an AI and AE on hand and you will be good to go.

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    For mass is there any prefrence for deca over eq or vice versa? Ive done cycles with each in the past...

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    test with deca = mass....

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    My vote is for EQ! i love that stuff. no water/increased appetite/minimal sides if any... awesome stuff, run it at 400 - 600 a week though for 12-14 weeks..

    maybe look into this
    1-4 Dbol 30-50mg/wk
    1-12 Test Cyp 400-600/wk
    1-14 EQ 400-600/wk, keep it lower than the test though
    or
    1-10 Deca 400mg/wk
    10mg nolva
    .25mg ldex
    pct

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    Eq Ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalseeker
    test with deca = mass....
    Agree 110%. If your going for mass then go with the Test/Deca

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    I still have a few months before I actually start so i have time to look over all the details and work something out, once i make my decision ill make sure and post for any last comments... The only upside ive seen of EQ was an incredible appt. increase and the upside i saw of deca was alot more strength in my cycle.

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    Also are ya saying if i go with EQ to run longer than the test?

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    Run the test longer

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    Quote Originally Posted by rubiconman500
    Also are ya saying if i go with EQ to run longer than the test?
    u kan start eq a few weeks before test if u wish

    just run the EQ a MINIMUM of 12 weeks if not 15 IMO
    run test 1 week past EQ

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    just run the EQ a MINIMUM of 12 weeks if not 15 IMO
    I agree....

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    Deca and EQ need to be run for no less than 12 weeks IMHO. I'd go with Dbol or Tbol/Test Deca for mass/weight gain.

    Whats your cycle history?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    Deca and EQ need to be run for no less than 12 weeks IMHO. I'd go with Dbol or Tbol/Test Deca for mass/weight gain.

    Whats your cycle history?
    My first cycle was
    Wks 1-12 Deca 400mg/week
    Wks 1-13 Sust 250 500mg/week

    2nd was
    Wks 1-12 EQ 400mg/week
    1-13 T400 600mg/week
    1-6 Masteron 200mg/week

    Nolva everyday and PCT was done with each cycle...

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    Rubiconman.. also make sure your diet is ready to go

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    I wont be actually doing this until about august so i have much time to work on my diet and current conditioning before the actual cylce... but once on EQ its hard for me to keep it consisten cause that juice makes me hungry 24/7 no matter how much ive already had

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