Letro useage to hault the development of gyno...

**pitbull27** · 03-02-2006, 12:12 PM

O.k., here is a little background info so I can get the best possible advice on how much Letro to take to hault or maybe even reverse the beginning stages of gyno.....
During this cycle, I started to notice a tiny lump developing under my left nipple, with some sensitivity to touch. The lump is tiny, (about the size of a BB) and not visibly noticeable, but it is tender and the nipple is always hard. I have been taking Nolvadex at 20 mg a day plus liquidex at .25 mg a day thru my cycle, but this is the first time I have used NPP. (I am guessing that the NPP is the culprit here). This current cycle is Sustanon 250 at 500mg a week, plus NPP at 400mg per week, with a dbol jumpstart for the first 4 weeks. I am currently starting week 9 of a 13 week cycle (exactly 3 months).
The nipple started becomming a little itchy about 2 or 3 weeks ago, but I thought nothing of it as this has happened in previous cycles of test, without ever getting any worse or becomming a problem. This week I noticed the tiny lump, so I figured I'd try to stop it before it gets too out of hand. The lump is noticeable to the touch, but not too hard or very solid yet.

My question is, what do you think is the best protocol for Letro in a this case?? I have seen so many different dosages to take on this message board I have no idea where to begin. Also, while I am using the Letro, should I drop the use of the liquidex until I'm done with the Letro, or use it when I am tapering down the Letro dose?? Do I continue to use Nolvadex at 20 mg while using the Letro, or change the amount I am taking per day??

Thanks in advance,
pitbull

**BigJames** · 03-02-2006, 12:48 PM

I would drop the L-dex and try the Letro for a while. You can continue the Nolva at 20mg ED, but some would suggest increasing the dosage of Nolva to 30-40mg ED until the gyno subsides and then drop back down to 10-20mg ED after the symptoms (itchyness, etc.) go away. If you already have a lump, it may not dissappear without surgery. But letro is worth a shot. Letro is a powerful AI so you need to be a little careful not to over do it as you do need some estrogen in your body to function properly. I would suggest 1mg EOD until the symptoms subside and then drop down to 1mg MWF for the rest of the cycle. You want to drop the letro at the end of your cycle; from what I have read it is not a good PCT drug because it can cause some kind of estrogen rebound....

**pitbull27** · 03-03-2006, 05:16 AM

Thanks chief.

**pitbull27** · 03-04-2006, 02:37 PM

Do you think 2.5 mg ED while on cycle is overkill if you already have a small lump developing? Still about a month to go on this cycle....

**Unoid** · 03-04-2006, 04:18 PM

NPP is a prolactin drug like deca (it is isn't it?)
get on B6 or better yer cabergoline or bromocryptine

**pitbull27** · 03-04-2006, 04:31 PM

Im currently using B6 caps at 200mg a day. Should I up this dose?
Yes, NPP has a faster release of Nandrolone than deca , and you retain much less water. I may have to get my hands on some bromo.

**pitbull27** · 03-04-2006, 04:48 PM

Unoid,
you have a PM....

Anyone else on the 2.5mg of Letro a day being overkill while still on cycle?

**velvetlion** · 03-04-2006, 05:35 PM

Not quite sure on what is overkill on the letro, because I have never used it, but have read about the rebound in estrogen that you can get after you discontinue its use. So I would make sure that you continue your nolvadex after discontinue the letro.

Keep us posted on how it works for you and what doseage you decide to use. I have a friend about to try to combat his gyno with letro also. His is much worse to start with than yours sounds, so I am doubtful that he can get rid of it, but I told him that if anything, Letro would be the only thing that may work. I would be curious to see how it works for you.

**chest6** · 03-04-2006, 05:40 PM

Check out my protocol on my thread..should be around this one somewhere, I just posted it. Mine did not work, however my gyno was about a year old when I started. I would add dostinex .5mg E4D since you are running NPP along with the B6 at 200mg ed.

**pitbull27** · 03-04-2006, 08:53 PM

Man, I hate to sound stupid, but what is dostinex?
I am going to go ahead with the letro at 2.5 mg per day for the first week at least, and see how I should adjust it from there. I will have to taper it down over the next 6 weeks to be off if it by the time pct starts, and after pct if I still have a lump there I may go back on letro for a few months as I will be taking 3 months "off". In addition to the letro, I have decided to bump up the nolvadex to 40 mg a day instead of 20, and just for this first week of letro use I am still going to use liquidex at .25mg per day(to allow a little time for the letro to build up in my system)... then I will drop the L-dex until pct.
B6 is being taken at 200mg a day and I will continue with that doseage. Hopefully, if the lump doesn't at least shrink some before pct it may after as some feel that when you discontinue use of what is causing the gyno in the first place, (NPP in this instance) and use letro, you are no longer feeding the tissue and you are both "starving" the tissue and treating with an AI at the same time.
Any thoughts??

**pitbull27** · 03-04-2006, 11:42 PM

Bump...

**pitbull27** · 03-05-2006, 12:57 PM

One last bump.

**neverenuff21** · 03-05-2006, 03:30 PM

I would like to know this so..bump cause Im starting a new cycle because i dont want to wait for this damn lump to dissapear. If i wait ill be a stick by the time it goes away