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    Running anti-E's throughout...

    what are the major reasons you would run anti's thoughout your entire cycle? Reduce water wieght, ok, but does it do anything else for you? keep gains? reduce sides? insight would be apprecaited.

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    Dont want gyno!

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    i'm not gyno prone at all, or at least not yet(knocking on wood), I've never ran anti's during my cycle and never had anyproblems...i guess what i'm trying to get at is does it do anything for gains during or after cycle

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    I personally don't like to take a chance not running an anti-e. Its much easier to prevent gyno than to treat it. I would rather spend $60 on a bottle of liquidex than $3000 on gyno surgery.

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    I would use an AI if was looking for low estrogen levels like for contest preping, cutting or basically minimal water retention. I would also use one for the prevention of gyno if I was succeptible (which I'm not thank God).

    IMO they are overused too much, some can achieve more gains without the use of one............

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    my upcoming cycle is this:

    week 1-4 prop 100mg/day
    week 1-12 EQ 500mg/week
    week 1-11 test e 500mg/week
    week 11-13 prop 100mg/day

    what do ya'll suggest if i were to run an anti E thoughout?

    also my planned pct consist of clomid only. What do you think about that?

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    Hova I have the same outlook...gains could be better without them during a cycle, especaillly if your not looking to get really cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Juice
    my upcoming cycle is this:

    week 1-4 prop 100mg/day
    week 1-12 EQ 500mg/week
    week 1-11 test e 500mg/week
    week 11-13 prop 100mg/day

    what do ya'll suggest if i were to run an anti E thoughout?

    also my planned pct consist of clomid only. What do you think about that?
    I'd go with:

    wk 1-4 Test Prop 100mg/ED
    wk 1-14 Test Enan 500mg/wk
    wk 1-13 EQ 500mg/wk
    wk 12-16 Test Prop 100mg/ED

    PCT begins 14 days after last Test Enan shot, 3 days after last Test Prop shot and 21 days after last EQ shot. You could, alternatively, run an oral for the first 4 weeks and end with Test Prop.

    Run some Provrion throughout at 25-50mg/ED and for PCT.

    For PCT run HCG /Nolva/Proviron IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New Juice
    Hova I have the same outlook...gains could be better without them during a cycle, especaillly if your not looking to get really cut
    Yea sometimes it gets to me when I see guys running 100mgs of Drol and a gram of test and l-dex all the way through. We all have different goals so cant say its wrong, just a preferance..............



    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto
    wk 1-4 Test Prop 100mg/ED
    wk 1-14 Test Enan 500mg/wk
    wk 1-13 EQ 500mg/wk
    wk 12-16 Test Prop 100mg/ED
    Much better!!!!!

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    I always use Proviron in cycles. And if Ime using compounds that converts heavily, I run nolva all the way through. This has never reduced my gains.

    An AI shouldnt be used to drive estrogen to zero, but it should be used to keep estrogen with-in normal values.

    I dont belive having higher estrogen-levels is more anabolic than normal levels. The reasen many people belive this is because they will gain less water, which is a very false impression of gains IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    The reasen many people belive this is because they will gain less water, which is a very false impression of gains IMO.
    More water = more scale weight. Doesnt take a genius to figure that out but for whatever reason some like scale weight.

    Personally, I could care less how much gravity is pulling me to the center of the earth. If I feel, look and perform good, then I"m a happy camper......................

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    What are some good products to eliminate bloat from your personal experience?

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